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  New proposed solution
Posted by: ReneZ - 04-10-2017, 06:39 AM - Forum: News - Replies (4)

As I already commented elsewhere, this is an unusually fruitful year for solution attempts.

Here is another one:
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  The Warburg Institute in London has a new director
Posted by: ReneZ - 03-10-2017, 09:33 AM - Forum: News - Replies (2)

The prestigious Warburg institute in London has a new director as of this week:

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who should be well known for his interest in the Voynich MS.

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  [split] Succulents in the VM
Posted by: Koen G - 02-10-2017, 08:32 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (11)

By coincidence I just purchased the plant from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in Ikea. It's a succulent with actual dots on the leaf edges (I think these are new plants).

Proof:

   

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  f1v - 81 ?
Posted by: Paris - 02-10-2017, 01:47 PM - Forum: Marginalia - Replies (3)

I'd like to open a new thread about this folio, f1v.
This folio is already known for a glyph ("G" or "3") on a green leaf, on the left side.

I'd like to show you something, on a yellow leaf, on the right side.

First of all, the folio, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

If we zoom in strongly, we can see clearly a glyph who looks like the number "1".
On the left of this "1", we can distinguish with difficulty another number "8".
If there are numbers, we get a "81".

And now the image of this curiosity :



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  balanced herbals
Posted by: Davidsch - 02-10-2017, 01:36 PM - Forum: Imagery - No Replies

If you look at the herbals like an unit being displayed, you could split a herbal drawing up into:

top with flowers
leafs top
branch (small)
(fruit or) seed
main branch (thick)
----
bottom base, root crown
root

For comparison with Arabic counterparts, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

If you count the parts on the left and right side of each herbal, you will notice that there are balanced but also un-balanced herbals.

Sometimes you counts 4 big tubers on one side and 5 on the other, 7 leafs on one side and 6 on the other side etc.

Some random picks.
f10v: 2 flowers, leafs left: 3, leaf right: 5.
f16r: 1 big flower in middle, 2 left flowers, 2 right, 3 branches, on the left 3 with 3 leafs, on the right 4 branches with 4 leafs.
f41v: 4 branches left, 3 branches right. 2 root tubers balanced. 4 leafs left, 3 right. 1 long root thing.


Although there are also balanced herbals. 
For example f33v: 3 bulbs, 3 flowers. 3 leafs left, 3 leaves right.
f16v: 1 big flower in middle, 2 left, 2 right
f48r: 3 flowers, 1 longer on the left, 5 branches left, 5 branches right, 6 green things on both sides, 3 root things balanced


On the contrary, in most Dioscorides and pseudo herbals that I've seen most herbals show a balanced drawing.
Hard figures I do not have, this is based on a general feeling during the last year.

If there is a (hidden) significance in showing a balanced or unbalanced herbal, and you and such information to share, please share that.
If you don't think it is relevant, please mention that together with any of your research references, would be much appreciated.

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  f65R any identifications?
Posted by: Dispator - 02-10-2017, 12:20 AM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (20)

[Image: f065r_crd.jpg]

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  chol - welsh
Posted by: voynichbombe - 01-10-2017, 08:11 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk - Replies (12)

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funny thing with the corpus regex (ace, btw. thx). google translate (yes, again), thinks the chol example is welsh. welsh dictionary tells me "from her lap", old english welsh thesaurus tells me chol comes from arab. "chalel", "to expect" (I expect it means expecting a child).

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Photo Plant Id.
Posted by: Dispator - 01-10-2017, 06:12 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (19)

Hello everyone!
 I'm a herbalist from the Adriatic area and i would like to join in on the discussion of the VM MS408 on this forum, seems the community is fairly active and solid, cheers.


as the name of the thread says this is about plant id. namely items on folios F3r  F3v  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Asplenium billotii
[Image: Asplenium_billotii_002.jpg]
Aconitum napellus aka MONKSHOOD[Image: 866497.jpg][Image: hedera-helix-n4.jpg]
HEDERA

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  Siloe to exhibit first copy of their facsimile
Posted by: davidjackson - 28-09-2017, 08:51 PM - Forum: News - Replies (4)

At the Frankfurt manuscript fair, 11-15 October the company just told me. They will be showing off their very first handwritten copy.
Anyone nearby to take a look? I can probably bag you a chat with them.
The official presentation is in November.

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  Meta EVA
Posted by: Emma May Smith - 27-09-2017, 11:20 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text - Replies (5)

I wonder how useful it would be to have an agreed set of meta characters as part of EVA.

I have seen others use capital letters to stand for groups of characters which are similar in some ways. For example [E] can be used to stand for [e, ee, eee], ignoring exactly how many [e] characters are in a row. So [okEdy] could stand for [okedy, okeedy, okeeedy]. This is useful in talking about more general and abstract word structure.

Some proposals for meta EVA:
[B]: any bench [ch, sh]
[E]: any [e] sequence [e, ee, eee]
[G]: any non-bench gallows [k, t, f, p]
[I]: any [i] sequence [i, ii, iii]
[N]: any sequence ending [n] with any number of [i], so [n, in, iin, iiin]
[R]: any sequence ending [r] with any number of [i], so [r, ir, iir]

Thoughts? Would it be useful?

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