Hello,

My name is Matt and this script has to be Latin, yes the gallows with the bench is strange, but that is, because its in cipher.  Now I don't wish to release my cipher until we agree that you and your crew don't beat me up too bad here because its my life's work.

You see the {oe} in voynich that's Latin for{ ei }= and its { to, they } in English

Now if you wish to understand the cipher then post a reply!

Hello !

For several days I have been looking for proposals to explain the helical structure of the rosette page. Do you have any references?

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For those without proper daylight today...

Turn on some lights and have a look if you can match the solar eclipse diagram annotation to the rosette maps' appendix (see attachment).
 

The direct link to today's eclipse blogpost is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. The link includes all the ms links.

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So this is an idea where the Medici family continued to show secrets of the world in their commissioning of art. I see connections to Botticellis paintings with regard to both geography and flora. Let me show you a later painting which I see as representing the world in its entirety.

Calumny of Appeles    The timing of this painting is just after Columbus' journey.


Now take a look at this projection. Not perfect but do you see the similarities?



Australia would need to swing around 90 degrees with Antarctica making up the top half of Venus to the far left of the painting. Can you see the arm? The old hag is a T-O map trifecta of Africa, making up her head, Europe, the UK is her pointy sleeve, and Asia with India as the trailing dress. Note she is toe to toe with the tip of North America, 

Jason Davies has a tool which can help make the shapes morph more closely to those in the painting
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  I haven't been able to capture it yet but will see what I can do.

If you then go back in time, you find Cosimo Medici to be connected with various people that could have been part of making the manuscript, from geographers to cryptologists and astronomers, among others. I still see quite 13 as showing the ecumene through bodies of water, and the Birth of Venus seels to me a continuation of what is shown geographically, followed by Primavera, which to me combines more geography with a multitude of flora, in addition to the generally accepted imagery of the graces etc. Calumny of Appeles then shows the entire globe of land masses in its entirety.

In 1439 the works of Strabo were introduced to Italy at the Council of Florence, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. who also knew Columbus

I see this as the information shown in quite 13. Notably, Strabo's ecumene ends exactly where the quite 13 one does. He also saw Sagres point as the wester most point in Europe, which is where Quite 13 starts it's journey.




Strabo also incorporated the work of Hecataeus in his writings, I see his periplusas being recreated in Quite 13 as well.

There are more connections, but I will stop here to see if anyone sees a glimmer of what I am seeing in this.

A post from Beinecke just appeared on my facebook feed, and I keep being surprised at the confidence with which they claim unverified or wrong things. 

Central Europe? Why? Why not Spain or Sicily or England for all I care? But okay, that's one thing, central Europe is a vague term.
But why don't they update the date range? I thought we could be relatively certain about early 15th century?

   

Can anyone out there confirm or deny this?

Stolfi mentions in a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. that he found the following gallows distribution:

Quote: I just noticed a curious coincidence:
>
>   total *occurrences* of words (tokens) with
>    
>      0 gallows .... 17363  (49.4%)
>      1 gallows .... 17443  (49.6%)
>      2 gallows ....   323   (0.9%)
>      3 gallows ....     3
> Many (if not all) of the 2- and 3-gallows words are probably due to
> omission of word spaces by the transcribers. Other data errors may
> have injected a few percent of noise in these figures.
>
> Still, the coincidence is intriguing. It seems safe to assume that a
> "correct" Voynichese word can have at most one gallows; so we have
> almost exact 50-50 split between 0-g and 1-g words.

Even curiouser:

              w/o gallows    with gallows
            +--------------+--------------+
w/o tables   | 8772 (25.2%) | 9016 (25.9%) |
            +--------------+--------------+
with tables  | 8591 (24.7%) | 8423 (24.2%) |
            +--------------+--------------+

These are counts of tokens (word instances) in the whole majority-vote
transcription; minus key sequences, labels, unreadable/contentious
tokens, and the 326 tokens with two or more gallows.

The "gallows" are the EVA letters [ktfp], including any platforms
("ct", "cth", "ith") and isolated "e" suffixes ("te", "cthe", etc.).

The "tables" are the letters "ch", "sh", "ee", and any isolated "e"s
that are not attached to a gallows letter.

Arae


I call Arae is listed in 68r1, the alchemy section and the vegetable menu section!  So here are the folios. 

Arae is Ara for star and Constellation!
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Arae is for fire


Some Venus fly traps have a greater resistance to fire than other plants.
 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., and depends on periodic burning to suppress its competition.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Fire suppression threatens its future in the wild.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Hi friends;

I'm still convinced the VMS is written Latin!  And it is from a great in depth search, from which I derived this perception.  The House of Este gardens and fountains show this Arched openings with green water!  You will have to read my book to find out the analysis from why I believe the Voynich is written in Latin.  Even JKP indicated House of Este as location to the VMS after I wrote about it.  Anyway Good to see all you

D. O'Donovan [corrected] posted an excerpt of Latin text on her blog and included the interlinear expansion of the abbreviations You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

There's no guarantee the tendril in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is intended as a face, but it does appear deliberate. Profiles of men with beards were common in medieval manuscripts but it's not usual to find them integrated with a plant in this specific way—usually they show up in roots or leaves.


I haven't found a match, and looking for it is low on my list of priorities because there isn't necessarily an examplar, but this one comes closer than some, even if the nose is too sharp. Since the VMS drawing is a hybrid of face and plant, there may not be a direct match, but I thought it might be worth starting a thread in case interesting parallels exist: