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(22-03-2016, 09:46 PM)david wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I had a vague theory somewhere that this page represents female purity and how accepting divine will improves your lot.
The top woman receives blessed water from heaven directly (note the cross staff she is holding* - she isn't holding it, it is coming into her hand. Compare with the ring below), which also falls straight down onto the next woman, who may represent nobility (note Crown/Ring?). But she is on her back. The water falls onto her face to symbolise purity and her whole body is in the water
This goes down to the next level of commoner who is not purified by the water but is allowed to touch it.
And finally it goes down to the beasts of the field (whores?), one of whom escapes from her bestial form by touching the water (note how she is leaving the fish) whilst her companions stay.
The hair styles of the women become progressively plainer towards the bottom.
It's just the gist of a theory... a previous one of mine was that the women represent different phases of pregnancy (note belly - the penultimate belly has been retouched to make it more prominent).
*This cross-staff, of course, may simply be a stick she is pointing at the top of row of women on the next page, showing a connection between the two sets of illustrations.
I would like to add that a detail on the following page (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) is somehow reminiscent of a baptism scene. The attached image is from an You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., 1268.
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A possible additional use of the verb baptizein to relate to ritual washing is suggested by Peter Leithart (2007) who suggests that Paul's phrase "Else what shall they do who are baptized for the dead?" relates to Jewish ritual washing. In Jewish Greek the verb baptizein "baptized" has a wider reference than just "baptism" and in Jewish context primarily applies to the masculine nounbaptismos "ritual washing". The verb baptizein occurs four times in the Septuagint in the context of ritual washing, baptismos; Judith cleansing herself from menstrual impurity, Naaman washing seven times to be cleansed from leprosy, etc. Additionally, in the New Testament only, the verb baptizein can also relate to the neuter noun baptisma "baptism" which is a neologism unknown in the Septuagint and other pre-Christian Jewish texts. This broadness in the meaning of baptizein is reflected in English Bibles rendering "wash", where Jewish ritual washing is meant: for example Mark 7:4 states that the Pharisees "except they wash (Greek "baptize"), they do not eat", and "baptize" where baptisma, the new Christian rite, is intended.
I've been posting a bit lately about how I think the plants on the foldout 89v_1_2 are special. They have been drawn in an ambiguous way, so that they can be seen both as plants and as representations of scenes or figures from Greek myth. On my blog, I argue that these images likely had a didactic function, helping traders to memorize the local names for a number of important plants and products.
Today, I started posting on the last group on this foldout, which might be the most convincing plants mnemonic wise. They represent Heracles (Hercules) and two creatures he famously fought: Cerberos and the Hydra. I've put up the first post about the leftmost plant, which I identify as teak, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Tomorrow I'll get Cerberos and the Hydra online.
As always, comments, questions and criticism are welcome
I think it would be a good idea for people whose work on the Voynich manuscript is tied up with their financial affairs to make that clear.
This is not really about money - we're not the income tax department - but because people with a vested interest in maintaining their preferred hypothesis will be less likely to respond well to challenges and new information. And that's something other researchers need to know.
I'll start by saying that I'm working on a book commissioned by a reputable publishing house. Submission date is late this year.
I'm also instructed by the publisher to remind everyone that he considers his publishing house has a well-earned reputation, and that reputation is partly due to the quality of the persons whose works appear under their imprint. In his opinion, irresponsible persons' allegations and insinuations about one of his authors may well have a quantifiable impact on his sales, profits, and his own house's reputation, things of which he would take a dim view.
Sorry, but I've been asked to say that in a public Voynich forum. It has to do with a small clique, a sub-group in the 'German theory' set, who have pursued a relentless campaign of denigration and personal abuse because my work has not reached conclusions which support that theory. The campaign has noticeably become more vicious since I began demonstrating Jewish influence in the manuscript. The slanders have included insinuations that I am a liar, that my academic qualifications are not real; that my students were not real; that I suffer from some mental, moral or other deficiency... and so on and so forth.
I don't think our moderators will tolerate that sort of thing. I'm posting the notice for form's sake in a public forum as I've been asked to do.
Here is the list of the 98 plants that appear in the so-called alchemical herbals.
It is the same list published by You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Please refer to that page for an introduction to the subject.
I have added links to the images from BNF Lat. 17848, XV Century Northern Italy, and (for the missing pages) BNF Lat. 17844, XV Century Northern Italy with Hebraic annotations (thanks to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.).
[Edited: Links to Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408, Milan, Italy, 1378 - Six plants missing]
For the names that have an obvious symbolic meaning in Latin or Italian, I provide a possible translation.
In parenthesis the identification of the plant as proposed in "Il Giardino Magico degli Alchimisti" by Vera Segre Rutz. Her identifications are based on all the available elements: illustrations, plant names and further information provided in the text of the herbal.
Finally, I have added a short description for most of the plants, mainly to highlight the zoomorphic and anthropomorphic elements (see also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.). [Edited to add:] These descriptions are only based on the illustrations, with no attempt to match them with the identifications proposed by Segre.
1 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Antolla minor (anthyllis vulneraria) yellow flowers, accompanied by a winged dragon
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2 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Bortines (colchium autumnale) yellow flowers, red bulbous root in cross-section
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3 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Torogas (scrophularia nodosa) white flowers, numerous human faces on leaves and roots
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4 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Nigras “black plant” (genista tinctoria) yellow flowers, bulbous root, small dog climbing on the plant
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5 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Stellaria “star plant” (alchemilla vulgaris) red flowers, red and yellow bulbous root in cross-section
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6 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Bonifatia (ruscus hypoglossum) a single dark dot on some of the leaves, large rhizome
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7 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Betonega (stachys officinalis) red flowers, undulate leaf margins
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8 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Instanutia (hieracium pilosella) red berries, large rhizome
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9 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Canalaritas romana (eupatorium cannabinum - dubious) white flower, red-tipped trilobed leaves, dragon or snake-shaped roots
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10 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Rena (peucedanum ostruthium) trilobed leaves
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11 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Triacho (tussilago farfara) many small white flowers, undulate leaf margins, vaguely pawn-like roots
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12 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Bososilles (buxus sempervirens) red and yellow nodular roots
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13 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Angalles (plantago major, see also 39) large lanceolate leaves, spherical red and yellow bulbous root in cross-section
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14 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Toros (ranunculus thora) white flowers, small opposite leaves, accompanied by a winged dragon spitting fire
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15 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Grantia (rubia tinctorum) red flowers, large lanceolate leaves, red and yellow bulbous root in cross-section
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16 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Tortorellis (polygonum bistorta) red flowers, red root similar to a broken line
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17 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Lingua cornena (scolopendrium officinale) semicircular white root
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18 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Trifolio (trifolium pratense) spike-like flower, trilobed leaves
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19 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Ariola (daphne laureola) red flowers, oval leaves
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20 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Superna (sorbus aucuparia) the leaves are near the margins and green at the center
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21 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Faba inversa (atropa belladonna) purple bell-shaped flowers, red spherical berries
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22 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Paris (paris quadrifolia) four orthogonal leaves, central flower or fruit
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23 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Ciloga (cynoglossum officinale) single red flower, lanceolate leaves
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24 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Antollas (aconitum anthora) palmate leaves red near the margins, green at the center
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25 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Antolla lupanas “wolf's antolla” (ranunculus acer or aconitum lycoctonum – dubious) yellow flowers, palmate leaves red near the margins, green at the center
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26 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Cofflesanas (polygonum aviculare)
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27 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Cancealis (clematis recta)
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28 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Toffanas (sanicula europaea) white flowers, palmate leaves, large yellow rhizome
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29 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Brancha lupina “wolf's branches?” (acanthus mollis) yellow flowers, trilobed leaves
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30 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Salsifica (tragopogon porrifolius) rosette of lanceolate leaves with undulate margins
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31 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Sabastrella (sanguisorba officinalis) three red leaves at the top
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32 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Amorsu serpentis “plant for snake's bite” (aquilegia vulgaris - dubious) hand-shaped flowers, palmate leaves, three human heads in the roots
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33 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Tedorixe (polypodium vulgare - dubious) checkered patterned leaves, large rhizome
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34 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Lucea et de nouem una (rhamnus saxatilis) each leaf is half white / half green, roots in the shape of a pike fish
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35 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Ditimo biancho (dictamnus albus) large red flowers with four petals with a dark spot at the center, accompanied by a dragon or snake
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36 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Requificia (glycyrrhiza glabra, liquorice)
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37 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Illocharias (cochlearia officinalis) white flowers, twisted red root
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38 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Foleas / Trifoleas (achillea millefolium) red flowers, three red bulbs in the shape of human heads
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39 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Angalles (plantago lanceolata, see also 13) white flowers, large lanceolate leaves, squared yellow and red bulb in cross-section
Missing from Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408
40 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Luza Mandragora (mandragora officinarum) dog roped to the anthropomorfic root, accompanied by a man with his hands to his ears
Missing from Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408
41 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Illioris (helleborus niger) yellow flowers, a single large lanceolate leaf, two red oval bulbs with human faces
Missing from Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408
42 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Tilles (thymus serpyllum – dubious) three yellow flowers geometrically alternating with four lanceolate leaves, long rhizome
Missing from Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408
43 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Paroischas (scorzonera hispanica) red flowers, large lanceolate leaves, accompanied by a dragon
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44 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Corporelis / Corborellis “crow plant” (hepatica nobilis) red flowers, polygonal leaves, root in the shape of a black bird
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45 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Cipola marina (urginea maritima) rosette of lanceolate leaves, dark bulb with a red circle / section
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46 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Palma Christi “hands of Christ” (dactylorhiza maculata) red flowers, opposite leaves, hand-shaped root
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47 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Bazea minor et de nouem una (daucus carota, carrot) rosette of lanceolate leaves, large bulb in the shape of a human head, accompanied by a winged dragon
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48 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Folio (equisetum arvense - dubious) three lanceolate leaves, accompanied by a sword and a dagger
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49 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Rigogola BNF Lat 17844 (galega officinalis) red bell-shaped flowers, opposite leaves
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50 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Pane porcino “pig's bread” BNF Lat 17844 (cyclamen hederifolium) red flowers, trilobed leaves, spherical bulb
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51 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Artetica montaria (arnica montana)
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52 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Mula campana (inula helenium) bell-shaped flowers, the root seems to be separate from the plant
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53 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Zinziana / Gentiana (gentiana lutea) two yellow flowers, the root seems to be separate from the plant, accompanied by a winged dragon
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54 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. “eye of God” (lithospermum officinale - dubious) red flowers, small needle-shaped leaves, red roots - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. BNF 17844 has a version with a human eye in the roots (but this illustration is in a different style and it is not part of the "alchemical cycle" included in the ms)
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55 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Sancta Maria (mentha viridis - dubious) rosette of lanceolate leaves, large curved red inflorescence
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56 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Lunaria greca “Greek moon plant” (alysson – dubious) small crescent-shaped leaves, large brown roots
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57 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Capalias (capparis spinosa) yellow berries
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58 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Nascurso (nasturtium officinale) yellow flowers, large rhizome
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59 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Belletollis (asperula odorata, French: belletoile) two yellow berries, red nodular roots
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60 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Metries (myrtus communis - dubious) yellow flowers, bilobed leaves, red roots
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61 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Ystatoris (isatis tinctoria) white flowers, rosette of three lanceolate leaves, bulbous root in the shape of a human head
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62 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Polexinas (ruscus aculeatus)
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63 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Serpentina “snake plant” (asarum europaeum) yellow flowers, round leaves, vague snake-like green root
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64 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Pionica (paeonia mascula) red flower with six round petals, dark berries, white nodular roots, accompained by a black devil
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65 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Rucha salvaticha (eruca sativa, salad rocket)
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66 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Caspetres BNF Lat 17844 (saxifraga hirculus) reddish flowers with many petals
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67 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Brancha BNF Lat 17844 (potentilla erecta) red flowers with four petals, palmate leaves
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68 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Spigonarda BNF Lat 17844 (nardostachys jatamansi - dubious) long spike, blue palmate leaves
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69 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Lunaria “moon plant” (lunaria rediviva)
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70 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Erba rigano (origanum vulgare) large red flowers, smaller opposite leaves
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71 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Sigillo de Sancta Maria (polygonatum officinale) green berries, nodular roots somehow resembling human eyes
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Missing from Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408
72 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Rapillis (raphanus raphanistrum) yellow flowers, lanceolate leaves, two yellow and red oval bulbs in cross-section, accompained by a dragon or snake
Missing from Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408
73 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Bustania (anchusa officinalis) curved lanceolate leaves, twisted red roots
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74 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Forus (verbena officinalis) five couples of leaves of different shapes, five radial roots represented as dragon or snake heads
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75 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Capalarices (verbena officinalis) single pendulous dark flower and single long and curved root
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76 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Luminellas (euphrasia officinalis – dubious, see also 77) small red blossoms or berries, leaves with undulate margins
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77 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Ruschasia (euphrasia officinalis) leaves with undulate margins
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78 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Scudaria “shield plant” (umbilicus rupestris) red lower leaves, green upper leaves, bulbous root with human face
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79 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Lunaria “moon plant” (petasites hybridus – dubious) named like 56 and 69 but different: small blossoms or berries at the top, a single leaf on the left, regularly placed peduncles on both sides of the stem
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80 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Tunegi (satureja montana - dubious) small red flowers radially disposed, large white root
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81 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Lactica (lactuca virosa)
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82 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Barbaria (barbarea vulgaris) yellow berries, large dark root
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83 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Tura (arthemisia absinthum) yellow flowers, small leaves, dark conical root
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84 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Gerbia (carex) rosette of lanceolate leaves, large vaguely anthropomorphic root
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85 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Bruza (oxalis acetosella) conical, with ten stylized flowers, wavy gray roots
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86 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Lunaria tercia “third moon plant” (it is the fourth actually, see 56, 69, 79) red berries, round leaves, dark bulb
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87 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Attillia (ceterach officinarum) red flowers, red leaves with dentate margins, red roots
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88 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Victoria (allium victorialis) red flowers, the left half of each lanceolate leaf is red, the right half is green
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408, Herba Victoria
89 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Rondella (chelidonium majus) small red flowers, lobed leaves
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408, Herba Rondella
90 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Genesiana aliter Genciana (erythraea centaurium)
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408, Herba Genesiana aliter Genciana
91 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Fiorina BNF Lat 17844 (erythraea centaurium, see 90)
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92 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Capillaria "hair plant" (cuscuta) small red flowers and thin, long red leaves
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93 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Giralia (arum italicum)
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94 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Gratilia sive Gratiana (gratiola officinalis) red flowers, rosette of lanceolate leaves
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95 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Granellaria (saxifraga granulata) yellow berries, small lobed leaves
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Bodley MS. Canon. Misc. 408, Herba Granellaria
96 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Pionia (paeonia peregrina)
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97 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Consolida mayor (symphytum officinale)
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98 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Herba Consolida minor (symphytum officinale) -same page as Consolida Major-
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I have already posted on voynichimagery some information about languages being taught in within the Latin domain in the fourteenth century. These included Syriac, Arabic, and Armenian.
I might also mention that Aramaic remained a language in use among Jewish communities.
The last speaker of Cuman in Europe died about the time that Kircher received the manuscript, but a couple of centuries before, it had been in use and understood as a trading language from the Black Sea to the borders of China.
Until the tenth century, Bactrian was still written and spoken around the region of Mashhad which, for other reasons to do with the botanical folios, is a time and place of interest to us.
I expect that because the past century has seen almost everyone begin by presuming the manuscript was European it is easy to overlook the fact that we don't actually know where it was made, nor by whom, nor for whom, nor whether the content is fifteenth century, or whether the fifteenth century version we have isn't a copy of some much older work.
So considering non-European-Latin languages and script may be a good idea.
Not even McCrone was willing to assign it to any place in Europe. When pressed, they would only say that it was "not incompatible' with the form of a European manuscript. As all the scientists here will know, that's the sort of phrasing which signals strong reservations. Perhaps someone, at some time, set out to test the usual theory but if so, I've not seen any evidence of the process.
I myself think that some small parts of of the pictorial matter were first enunciated by a Latin European; most researchers have begun from that premise; but in fact it is only a presumption, not a fact.
I am looking for Fontana Material.
If you look at philip neal's page (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
you will find this image from
Quote:A scan of H. Omont Un Traite de Physique et d'Alchimie du XVe Siecle en Ecriture Cryptographique.
Bibliotheque de l'Ecole des Chartes 58 (1897) pp. 253-258
Especially the page with the tubes is very interesting of course, but philip does not have more or an improved scan.
Does anybody have more information or readable stuff ?
The roger bacon cipher is based on groups of 5 letters which can be substituted by alphabet letters
The problem is that we also have VMS words that are smaller or bigger.
We could also take 1 specific letter (gallows), or a group or letters (the e,h,S) or any other combination.
Or we can remove the space character in one or more combinations.
Is there anyone out there that performed intensive computer calculations on those possibilities ?
There is the "arc" symbol in the VMS represented as extended EVA &163. (There is also &140, I'm not sure what's the difference between the two, but it seems that &163 is the one I am referring to).
It is quite rare, but it is encountered, for example, three times in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in the "index" column to the left.
This symbol is quite attractive for the analysis purposes in that it is clearly a single symbol, and not any combination/superposition of simpler symbols.
What makes this symbol extremely interesting is that it is used as a standalone label in f80r: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
So: either this stands for a number (why would a number be associated with this object?)
Or: this stands for a one-character word (could those who explore the language hypothesis advise whether any languages, besides hieroglyphic-based, have one-letter nouns?)
Or: the cipher is encoding a multi-letter word into a single character of the ciphertext.
In further studying the paint vs. line problem, I decided to trace the lines of the three "swimming" creatures on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .
For the full account you can check You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., but I'll put the most important stuff here.
Problems with this image in the manuscript:
In some places, the lines are covered in the thick, green paint, making them harder to see
…or totally impossible to see.
The color, white background and green water don’t “follow the lines”. This results in a confusing patchwork crossing the borders of the creatures in various places.
At some places where the green paint dries at the edges, it creates a darker line which can be mistaken for a creature outline.
Some parts, like the tails on the blue and the red one, have been totally covered in “water”.
So I traced all visible lines, and this is the result:
Some observations:
Red and Blue have forked tails like Green.
Red has a ridged back.
Blue has a saw pattern on the top of his snout and a line pattern on his back.
Yellow has a forked snout. It’s small, but clear upon close inspection.
This leads me to believe that Green, Blue and Red belong to the same “class”, the forked tail might represent "fish tails". That doesn’t mean that these three are fish, but the forked tail communicates that they were seen as something like that, i.e. associated with a watery habitat. They are distinguished by three different patterns: Green has dots running across his flank, Blue has a subtle pattern of lines on his back, and Red has a ridged back. Whether this means that they are different species, I don’t know.
Yellow has been given a different tail, a fuller body and a different neck. His stance seems to suggest hostility or fear towards Blue, and perhaps also Red and Green.
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