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RE: Morten St George Theory - -JKP- - 17-02-2018
Quote:Morten St George:I never said Florida. The trees here don't look high enough and it's also doubtful that the medieval reach of the spotted jaguar came this far east. I was thinking closer to Louisiana on the north side of the Gulf of Mexico.
Then again, we don't know what some of these places looked like seven hundred years ago. I saw a medieval weather map indicating that the temperature around the Gulf was hotter back then than it is today. The fact that the gals are running around naked implies a warmer climate than what it normally found in Europe.
Women running around naked, especially if they are associated with water, is a very pagan theme. If these are nymphs, rather than women, then it doesn't have to be hot because nymphs are impervious to weather. If some of these images are depictions of older myths, then naked women would be entirely appropriate. Greek pottery and Roman mosaics are full of them and those mosaics stretch all over Europe into England.
Sorry, shouldn't have said Florida. I meant that general area and didn't know what to call it. Usually I call it the Gulf area.
There are many areas of Europe that are hot. And there are plenty of swamps in the Old World. Plus it doesn't have to be northern or central Europe, it could be the Middle East, Turkey, Spain, etc.
Quote:Morten St George: It seems Diebold Lauber postdates the VMS, so what point are you trying to make?
Lauber inherited the studio from a father or uncle or someone like that. It was a family business. Unfortunately, there's not much history before Diepoldt got involved. Sometimes similarity in drawing style is passed down through families, both genetically and by example. Diepoldt was good at advertising and his name survived historically partly because he gave writing lessons in addition to running the scriptorium. A number of the manuscripts from his studio have pictures of green water with critters in them and at least one also includes a mermaid (not a fish with a woman in its mouth, unfortunately... the VMS version is very uncommon).
When I first started researching him (in 2008) because of the similarity of a few of the drawings and of the Gothic handwriting, there was almost zero information about him on the Web, but there's quite a bit more now, and many more of his studio's manuscripts are now available online.
By the way, I'm not opposed to New World arguments. I'm opposed to New World arguments that apply equally well to the Old World. If it doesn't SPECIFICALLY distinguish New from Old, then it's not a strong enough argument.
RE: Morten St George Theory - Morten St. George - 17-02-2018
RE: Morten St George Theory - Morten St. George - 20-02-2018
RE: Morten St George Theory - -JKP- - 20-02-2018
RE: Morten St George Theory - Morten St. George - 22-02-2018
RE: Morten St George Theory - -JKP- - 22-02-2018
RE: Morten St George Theory - Morten St. George - 22-02-2018
RE: Morten St George Theory - -JKP- - 22-02-2018
RE: Morten St George Theory - Morten St. George - 24-02-2018
RE: Morten St George Theory - Emma May Smith - 24-02-2018