+- The Voynich Ninja (https://www.voynich.ninja)
+-- Forum: Voynich Research (https://www.voynich.ninja/forum-27.html)
+--- Forum: Theories & Solutions (https://www.voynich.ninja/forum-58.html)
+--- Thread: No text, but a visual code (/thread-2384.html)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
159
160
161
162
163
164
165
166
167
168
169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
180
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
RE: No text, but a visual code - Linda - 22-03-2019
Antonio, what would the astronomical coordinates align to in your view?
Would they be the coordinates of the stars themselves? Then they would have to align with the location of the viewer, on Earth, right? And a time to view them at those coordinates, or at least be found in relation to a fixed point of some kind that is viewable by all, or at least many.
Or, could it be data for computing the position of the Sun, Moon and planets relative to the fixed stars? That i could see, it has been done several times, the Toledan tables is an example, coordinates with Toledo as the viewing place.
The Alfonsine tables of 1252 were an update of the Toledan tables
![[Image: 969px-Tablas_alfonsies.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Tablas_alfonsies.jpg/969px-Tablas_alfonsies.jpg)
Quire 13 i see as geographical and hydrological, with the nymphs standing for the human aspect of the geography, the societies that lived there. They are gigantic in relation to the waterbodies shown, you would be able to see them from space, if they were real.
As each place can be a set of coordinates on a map, or listed as directions and distances in a rutter, they can also have astronomical coordinates. When sailors set off to a far place, they aligned themselves with navigable stars. These could be what are on f68v1 and 2. There is a modern list of 58 navigable stars of which 19 are of first magnitude...these numbers dont fall too far from those in the above mentioned pages, the circles in the middle of some could denote first magnitude.
1995 Nautical almanac
![[Image: 555px-Nautical_almanac_left-hand_page.png]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Nautical_almanac_left-hand_page.png/555px-Nautical_almanac_left-hand_page.png)
The stars kind of do come down to earth, or come up from it, in a visual sense, without the need of tubes et al, depending on the direction you look, from where, and when you look. So i could see some form of astronomical coordinates being involved, but we have to keep worķing on how that could have been achieved and what the meaning would be ascribed to said coordinates.
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 23-03-2019
RE: No text, but a visual code - VViews - 23-03-2019
RE: No text, but a visual code - Linda - 23-03-2019
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 24-03-2019
RE: No text, but a visual code - Linda - 24-03-2019
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 24-03-2019
RE: No text, but a visual code - Linda - 24-03-2019
RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 07-04-2019
RE: No text, but a visual code - -JKP- - 07-04-2019