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RE: No text, but a visual code - Linda - 24-08-2026 (23-08-2026, 06:01 PM)Antonio García Jiménez wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Linda, you're right. There comes a point where I get lost in the whole tangle of texts. My issue wasn't with the particular idea that stars might affect herbs, it is that your ending statement seemed to apply to all the other things you were saying as well, like stars existing and travelling inside tubes, or that the containers are filled with substances distilled in the realm of the fixed stars. By saying i was with you, i meant I was understanding how you are seeing things and how they come together. I can accept that is what you see in the vms, but I don't think it is based on any common medieval thought, or that you can jump to the conclusion that because you saw that, they must would have had done so too, (if that is the correct tense in this case, which i fear it is not!). It does seem others agree Quote: Healing power comes from God through the celestial spheres. No one in the Middle Ages thought about chemical processes or photosynthesis. And this entire—perfectly orthodox—concept is what, in my opinion, is conveyed in the central sphere of the Rosettes, with those sumptuous vessels that seem to gather that virtus caelestis of which Saint Albert the Great speaks. Healing power? Is that the influence the stars have on the plants? I agree, no one was thinking photosynthesis. I believe people then would think about the sun, heat and light are needed to make plants grow...more of my tomatoes turn red on days with full sun than on cloudy days, and certainly more than turn red during the night. (I pick them at first signs of ungreen and let them ripen in my kitchen, usually have to wait until later the next day if it is sunny, for more to pick, or have none to collect if cloudy.). I know that if I plant my beans too early they don't like it because they don't like the cold. I believe they would think about the moon, insofar as cycles go, and insofar as the correlation of the moon's infuences with water, ie tides, which probably affect water tables and evaporation and subsequent precipitation and the whole water cycle, although they probably did not go so far as I just did in their thinking about it. Some plants respond to the moon, so there is influence that can be witnessed. The planets and stars, I guess that would depend on your upbringing and what gets taught to you, or what you notice about them. I don't think there is anything you can prove one way or another through personal experience about a star's influence on a plant, so it would likely be a belief. I believe such beliefs existed, to differing degrees, and they were probably distributed unevenly as well, ie different beliefs spread out over different places and time. So it's hard to say what they would be specifically without knowing more about the where or when. ![]() I seems like others agree with the idea of vessels of virtus caelestis, however, it seems that Saint Albert would not have thought of it as he believed the makeup of the spheres of the sky was different than the elements on earth, that they were solid and crystalline, so would not have placed earth-type vessels there, even metaphorically. Quote: ololololo, I never said that nonsense about stars shaped like tubes. What I said is that the authors of the Voynich use the tubes to channel the influence of the stars. I do not believe that medieval minds would look at the rosettes and see what you described, without first a like minded person of the time to tell your story to them first. I appreciate that you do not present things as indisputable, I think we all have to approach with that mindset. RE: No text, but a visual code - ololololo - 24-08-2026 RE: No text, but a visual code - Linda - 24-08-2026 RE: No text, but a visual code - ololololo - 25-08-2026 RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 25-08-2026 RE: No text, but a visual code - ololololo - 25-08-2026 RE: No text, but a visual code - Rafal - 25-08-2026 RE: No text, but a visual code - Oscroft - 25-08-2026 RE: No text, but a visual code - Jorge_Stolfi - 25-08-2026 RE: No text, but a visual code - Antonio García Jiménez - 25-08-2026 |