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RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - MarcoP - 19-10-2021
(16-10-2021, 08:07 PM)nablator wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What worries me is that the system is complex and ambiguous. Also I am not sure if it is possible to decrease the entropy while compressing text.
Hi Nablator,
personally I find your objection totally conclusive; BTW it can be applied to all the "solutions" that keep popping out. The great news is that these delusional efforts have not been published on widespread media as it happened in the past.
Checking character conditional entropy on the Bonaventura passage I transcribed You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., I find the following values:
unabbreviated: 3.13
abbreviated: 3.50
This is in line with You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.'s results:
Quote:abbreviated Latin has higher conditional character entropy than unabbreviated Latin
From their Figure 14, I would say they get a 3.2 measure for the unabbreviated text vs 3.3 for the abbreviated version.
Entropy tells us that Voynichese is not a simple substitution cipher of Latin (or Persian, Old English, Turkish etc), but it is even clearer that it is not abbreviated Latin.
The Latin produced by Maria basically has the same character conditional entropy as the corresponding EVA:
Maria: 1.98
EVA: 1.81
The passage is short and this affects entropy. For a true Latin text of the same length, entropy is close to 2.7.
Maria gains her small entropy increase by reading character sequences in several different ways (e.g. EVA:ar is read "arte", "ati", "atres", "quatre", "autem", "artes" - each occurrence gets its own individual reading).
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - Maria Rita Lunazzi - 19-10-2021
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - Maria Rita Lunazzi - 19-10-2021
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - Maria Rita Lunazzi - 19-10-2021
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - davidjackson - 19-10-2021
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - nablator - 20-10-2021
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - nablator - 20-10-2021
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - Maria Rita Lunazzi - 20-10-2021
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - nablator - 22-10-2021
RE: The Voynich manuscript decoding method proposal by Maria Rita Lunazzi - LisaFaginDavis - 22-10-2021