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RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - eggyk - 06-01-2026
(06-01-2026, 03:12 PM)nablator wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I meant: if you want to mimic the positional nature of Voynichese glyphs and lower the 2nd order character entropy (h2) to match the h2 of Voynichese, you need more constraints: enforcing many rare or forbidden combinations one way or another is a way to achieve this. Inserting spaces is a way but it would create (too) many short words to look like Voynichese.
Using one character (letter or symbol) for several plaintext letters makes the next character less predictable after any given character, because there are more possibilities. This is the wrong way to go: if you want a ciphertext that is more Voynichese-like, you need to make the next character more predictable.
Surely its the opposite for this system? As there are fewer overall symbols, the chance that the next letter is any of those specific symbols is higher.
I used your link to test a paragraph from english to cipher (using 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 (A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I) instead of the squares in my post.
Here is the plaintext, curtesy of Koen's entropy essay:
h0 = 4.91, h1 = 4.29, h2 = 3.13
And this is the ciphertext of 8 symbols used in the OP:
h0 = 3.17, h1 = 3.06, h2 = 2.74
h2 appears to decrease with the cipher applied, not increase. This is also using a simple abc =1, def = 2 system. I would expect that by shuffling these letters around in their groups you could reduce entropy further.
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - eggyk - 06-01-2026
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - nablator - 06-01-2026
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - Koen G - 06-01-2026
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - oshfdk - 06-01-2026
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - Mauro - 06-01-2026
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - eggyk - 06-01-2026
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - Koen G - 06-01-2026
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - magnesium - 08-01-2026
RE: Voynichese-like Characteristics of a keyless "Enn'agrammaton" encoding system - eggyk - 10-01-2026