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RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - Stefan Wirtz_2 - 26-06-2026
(26-06-2026, 04:27 AM)BessAgritianin wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
Has the community become so attached to the pursuit of the answer,
that it no long wants the answer itself?
"The journey is its own reward!"- but is that sentiment blocking the destination?
Looks to me more like some answers are more "blocked" or ignored, as they do not fit into the expectations of a (loud) majority... the more welcomed "Alpine"/Latin/Italian/German solution is just -- not coming, those attempts fail the fastest, with good entropy or without.
JoJo_Jost wrote:[..]there are some here who just criticize everything on autopilot, and you can tell they often haven’t even looked into the topic. Those are usually the frustrated ones who are just trying to defend their own half-baked theories.
But most people here are experts—meaning they’ve been working with the VMS for a very long time and have seen many solutions come and go. [..]
Apart from the "expert" debate: several long-year "solvers" easily appear within the first group here...
rikforto wrote:[..]The example of the many solvers who do not address the entropy [..]
Why should they?
I played a bit with "DG97EEB" / Ed's stats page last week (VMS source text is represented by the 2nd column of numbers):
![[Image: ed61f2e94946ea7110beb5b62f78dfbf.jpg]](https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/ed/61/f2/ed61f2e94946ea7110beb5b62f78dfbf.jpg)
When you turn to the transliterations of "Glen Claston" , it shows quite normal h2 values near 2.9, which is quite ok for medieval texts, while Takahashi and Zandbergen translits stay at 2.1 ~ 2.3.
Or has somebody made a mistake?
Obviously, it depends not only upon EVA or non-EVA understandings of VMS character set, but also on the whole following transliteration.
"Glen Claston" (I know his real name was different) was not more or less solid in VMS works as others;
so the rammed-in stake of "VMS entropy is much too low, just 2.4!" might not be that undisputable stop-sign at all?
And...
JoJo_Jost wrote:
[..]Take substitution alphabets, for example. That fundamentally contradicts the structure of the VMS.[..]
Quite open: there is not even any common ground about the vaild set and number of Voynichese characters here, so speaking about "the structure of the VMS" (which we have not really an idea of) is, let's say, more than theoretical...
It might be a bit tiring for those who lasted in this forum many years now, to see again and again new "solutions", but for those "agreed-upon" topics which may speak against that all: when did you check your bases last time?
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - tavie - 26-06-2026
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - DG97EEB - 26-06-2026
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - Koen G - 26-06-2026
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - Jorge_Stolfi - 26-06-2026
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - rikforto - 26-06-2026
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - JoJo_Jost - 26-06-2026
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - Grove - 26-06-2026
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - Mark Knowles - 26-06-2026
RE: Who actually wants the Voynich solved? - Grove - 26-06-2026