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RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - CorwinFr - 13-04-2026
(13-04-2026, 10:29 AM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(12-04-2026, 10:16 PM)CorwinFr wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi oshfdk, I have redo eveything you have the clear analysis.
The attached PDF seems to contain a list of claims, not the analysis or any supporting evidence. The claims by themselves seem quite arbitrary to me. I'm not saying your approach is wrong, but it would be nice to have at least one piece of specific evidence that supports the claims. What's the strongest argument that supports your hypothesis?
I have already retracted one claim, I'm sorry I was lost in the Voynich during night experiment and don't respect fondamental bas I will stop for a while and I'm sorry for quite eveyrhing.
Anyway here was the reasonning :
On claim that anyone can verify in five minutes with the ZL transcription. Hopefully, I'm not sure of anything.
The gallows block-initial rule
Pick any paragraph (starred block) in the VMS. Look at its first word. In 79% of cases (620 out of 784 blocks), that word starts with a gallows character (p, t, k, or f in EVA).
Now look at every other word in the manuscript, the ones that are NOT first in their block. Only 6% of those start with a gallows.
That's a 12.8× enrichment. Gallows characters are almost exclusive to block-initial position. This is not subtle, it's a hard positional constraint on how the writing system works.
Two more, equally easy to verify:
The character n appears in 6,116 words. In 6,030 of those (98%), it is the last character. It almost never appears word-internally.
The character q appears in 5,420 words. In 5,389 of those (99%), it is the first character. It almost never appears word-internally.
What thispossibly means
These are not statistical tendencies, they are near-absolute positional rules. The characters don't encode phonemes (no natural language restricts a letter to one position with 98-99% consistency). They encode structural roles:
- Gallows = "this word starts a new paragraph/recipe"
- n = word-final marker
- q = word-initial marker
This is how abbreviation systems work: special markers for word boundaries and structural positions, separate from the content characters. That's one of the reasons the Tironian shorthand model fits — Tironian notes use dedicated strokes for positional modification of base signs.
These three facts are verifiable by anyone with a spreadsheet and the ZL transcription. No botanical identification needed, no corpus matching, no statistics beyond counting.
On top of that I build some method to encore properly the Voynich into JSON, compare with a corpus, etc. etc. etc.
Anyways as I said I was in a infernal spiral on this Woynich it's so... fascinating. Surelly all of this is wrong. I stop everything on this and I'm sorry.
RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - oshfdk - 13-04-2026
RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - CorwinFr - 13-04-2026
RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - oshfdk - 13-04-2026
RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - CorwinFr - 13-04-2026
RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - CorwinFr - 13-04-2026
RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - oshfdk - 13-04-2026
RE: Tested K&A at scale, found something, need your help - CorwinFr - 13-04-2026