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RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - Urtx13 - 24-04-2025
(24-04-2025, 01:44 PM)nablator wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(24-04-2025, 01:00 PM)Urtx13 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Do you know what a seed is?
A seed is just a number that lets you start the pseudo-random process from the same place every time. Without it, you’d get different results every run, like someone running 1 km, but always starting from a different city.
Yes, absolutely clear. I'm a software engineer.I've been doing this in my programs for decades, setting the random generator seed to be able to get the same result in a later run of course.
My problem is conceptual/philosophical: let me try to explain it.
If any calculation based on a sequence of random numbers produces something that compares amazingly well with reality this is a property of the sequence of random numbers, not a property of reality.
It's like discovering the entire US Declaration of Independence coded in the decimals of pi at offset 14287468794577131. Yes, it's there somewhere, but what does the discovery mean? Absolutely nothing.
Hi Nablator,
Apologies for my tone, I’m not a native speaker, and sometimes I express things more bluntly than I intend.
That said, I think there’s a fundamental difference between a random coincidence and a replicable structure. Your pi analogy is clever, but I’d argue it doesn’t quite apply here. It's like saying that if a monkey typing randomly on a keyboard writes a Shakespeare sonnet, then Shakespeare was just a random artifact of the keyboard.
Why? Because we’re not talking about a hidden message in an irrational number. We’re talking about a statistically significant, falsifiable structure that emerges in a linguistic corpus — and holds across different tests, models, and even transcriptions.
As a linguist, I can tell you: when such structure appears in language-like sequences, it’s not random noise. It suggests intentionality — whether functional, symbolic, or linguistic.
That’s not mysticism. I believe it is strong enough to be a potential first step toward understanding the system behind it.
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - Urtx13 - 24-04-2025
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - Urtx13 - 24-04-2025
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - RadioFM - 24-04-2025
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - Urtx13 - 24-04-2025
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - tavie - 24-04-2025
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - Urtx13 - 24-04-2025
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - RadioFM - 25-04-2025
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - Urtx13 - 25-04-2025
RE: Strong evidence of a structured four-phase system in the Voynich Manuscript - nablator - 25-04-2025