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About the binding(s?) and missing folios - Cuagga - 10-12-2025 Hello Voynich ninja, Reading Rene Zandbergen's blog, a few things jumped to my mind. In You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., he retraces the most probable evolution of the manuscript in these terms : Quote:The points that have been presented in relation to the order of production of the MS may now be summarised.We know that the quire numbers were added before the folio numbers, and that this indicates the presence of a first binding, or at least that the manuscript was prepared for binding (the same page mentions earlier that the marks on q9 only show a preparation for binding but no trace of finishing it at this point). Is there ANY reason that this first preparation for binding might prepare quires consisting of only one bifolio, and that it woud put those single-bifolio quires at any other point than the edges of the finished product ? If there is not, it indicates that q16 and q18 were composed of 4 bifoliae each, like most of the others, but that 3 of those had disappeared by the time the folio numbers were added (Looking further, I suppose it is likely that those pages were foldouts, like q14 through q19 have in abundance, but this doesn't prevent the existence of more missing unnumbered bifoliae) Then, for which reason would the first preparator prepare uneven quires (I can see two of them, but none can apply to q8 : either a clear semantic/stylistic link, which explains q20 but q8's remaining bifoliae aren't clearly semantically tied, or the physical unwieldyness of long quires with foldouts, which explains q14 through 19 but can't explain LONGER than usual quires) ? q8 is longer than all other quires (except q20, with its very different text layout than the rest), and as long as q13, which is stylistically coherent, but f57, 58, 65 and 66 are quite different to each other, and they aren't even consistent recto to verso (f57r and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. can be in the same section, but they are clearly different from the pair f57v-f66r). Currier finds both Language A and Language B in this quire, and the images look to belong in different sections, which indicates one of the following :
The most probable outcome, for me and for now, is the proposition 3 : q16 and q18 were longer than one standard bifolio each, but all the unnumbered ones were lost between quiring and foliating. I still don't have a good idea of why the quirer would create distinct-length quires in the middle of the book rather than counting the extra leaves at the end of the quiring process, but that might be tied to the process itself, in which case I'd love an idea RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - oshfdk - 10-12-2025 RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - Jorge_Stolfi - 10-12-2025 RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - Cuagga - 10-12-2025 RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - Cuagga - 10-12-2025 RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - oshfdk - 10-12-2025 RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - Cuagga - 10-12-2025 RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - oshfdk - 10-12-2025 RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - RenegadeHealer - 10-12-2025 RE: About the binding(s?) and missing folios - oshfdk - 10-12-2025 |