16-11-2018, 09:01 PM
I was going to respond to Koen's barrrel image on the "rings" thread but realized this probably needs its own thread...
![[Image: attachment.php?aid=2489]](https://www.voynich.ninja/attachment.php?aid=2489)
Diogenes is traditionally shown in a barrel, sometimes upright:
![[Image: m126.058ra.jpg]](http://ica.themorgan.org/icaimages/1/m126.058ra.jpg)
Morgan MS M.126 (England, c. 1470 but notice that the text and illustrations are in the French/Flanders style)
Or sometimes on its side, like a cave. These two, in which the barrel is sideways are from French manuscripts:
![[Image: 440px-Ms297-folio99recto_-_Diog%C3%A8ne_et_Crates.jpg]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Ms297-folio99recto_-_Diog%C3%A8ne_et_Crates.jpg/440px-Ms297-folio99recto_-_Diog%C3%A8ne_et_Crates.jpg)
![[Image: bccbf5ed5386810f8c6b1b501ef6574c.jpg]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/cb/f5/bccbf5ed5386810f8c6b1b501ef6574c.jpg)
![[Image: native.jpg]](http://gallica.bnf.fr/iiif/ark:/12148/btv1b8452640n/f120/1115,1164,909,860/909,860/0/native.jpg)
Alexander in a glass barrel (medieval submarine):
![[Image: b61effaf060e91a9751f7146d5091046--alexan...ibrary.jpg]](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/b6/1e/ff/b61effaf060e91a9751f7146d5091046--alexander-the-great-british-library.jpg)
![[Image: 6a00d8341c464853ef017d3fc84040970c-500wi]](https://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/.a/6a00d8341c464853ef017d3fc84040970c-500wi)
British Library Royal MS 20 B (France, c. 1420)
Bathing barrels (there are many of these, and they are always upright, so I'll post just one):
![[Image: m312.009ra.jpg]](http://ica.themorgan.org/icaimages/3/m312.009ra.jpg)
Morgan MS M.312 Book of Hours, use of Rouen, c. 1470s
Barrels for food and tools:
![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfXM8lSmp3EzZc-2jWL1h...RSJeafjZ-A]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfXM8lSmp3EzZc-2jWL1hbKTClEIhgo3T6i6E49YVLRSJeafjZ-A)
There are also many barrels associated with milking cows and goats, distillation and fermentation, and they are pretty much always upright, so I'll post just one:
![[Image: Hans_Franck%2C_Biermesser%2C_Mendel_Band...e_125v.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Hans_Franck%2C_Biermesser%2C_Mendel_Band_I_%281506%29%2C_Seite_125v.jpg)
The ones that are most consistently sideways are Alexander's barrel and Diogenes's barrrel.
Diogenes is traditionally shown in a barrel, sometimes upright:
Morgan MS M.126 (England, c. 1470 but notice that the text and illustrations are in the French/Flanders style)
Or sometimes on its side, like a cave. These two, in which the barrel is sideways are from French manuscripts:
Alexander in a glass barrel (medieval submarine):
British Library Royal MS 20 B (France, c. 1420)
Bathing barrels (there are many of these, and they are always upright, so I'll post just one):
Morgan MS M.312 Book of Hours, use of Rouen, c. 1470s
Barrels for food and tools:
There are also many barrels associated with milking cows and goats, distillation and fermentation, and they are pretty much always upright, so I'll post just one:
The ones that are most consistently sideways are Alexander's barrel and Diogenes's barrrel.
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