08-09-2017, 05:38 PM
That 'word' schaedata' is puzzling if, and only if, it is an accurate transcription from the image of the letter.
I studied this about, I think, a week ago. Throughout the letter, letter 'd' is most commonly written in a plain form. I thought, and still think, that only two readings make sense: either schifrata or schismata
An aside.
Helmut: I agree with your comment above, but when dictionaries began to be written for general use they were written by scholars of classical Latin. To read medieval Latin in its full contexts one must assume both local variations of spelling and grammar and scribal variations in the same.
The words schism and cipher are derived from Latin and have their counterparts in romance languages.
After narrowing down to these two choices I found something in the archives which supports the 'schismata' transcription.
Rene Zandbergen, 2004.
As for the 'sphi-':
The Sph*nx will understand from the attached sheet what my friend Mr Georg Barschius wanted to have written by me.
Sphi modo quae Amicus meus M. Georg Barschius per me scribi uoluerit, et schaedata hic adiuncta intelliget.
Remembering that the writer was likely not intending classical Latin:-
sphinges modo quae ... Barschius per me scribi voluerit.
puzzling manner whereby ... Barschius for me chose to write
'for' meaning 'for my benefit'
... et schaedata hic adiuncta intelliget.
... et schifrata hic adiuncta intelliget. ciphers.
... et schismata hic adiuncta intelliget. things cut out.
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I studied this about, I think, a week ago. Throughout the letter, letter 'd' is most commonly written in a plain form. I thought, and still think, that only two readings make sense: either schifrata or schismata
An aside.
Helmut: I agree with your comment above, but when dictionaries began to be written for general use they were written by scholars of classical Latin. To read medieval Latin in its full contexts one must assume both local variations of spelling and grammar and scribal variations in the same.
The words schism and cipher are derived from Latin and have their counterparts in romance languages.
After narrowing down to these two choices I found something in the archives which supports the 'schismata' transcription.
Quote:The evidence is staring us in the face :-)[url=http://voynich.net/Arch/2004/08/msg00191.html][/url]
Marci sent a letter to Kircher in 1640 with the
question whether Kircher could interpret the attached
'schaedata' (which could mean drawings).
What if these were pages of the MS? Kircher would
have kept them, and whoever organised his
correspondence, could have later placed them back
together with the VMs. And what do we see?
There is evidence of the VMs being rebound between
1700 and 1900 (source: Yale catalogue entry).
There are odd stubs near f73 and near f94/95.
Quite possibly, the bits Baresch sent were sewn
back into the MS in the 18th C.
Speculating even further, there are a few pages
which have small 'a' 'b' 'c' in the corner, which
are written in pencil, much like used in the
index of Kircher's correspondence. This could be
further indication that these pages may have been
detached from the MS at some time during its stay
with the Jesuits after Kircher.
Cheers, Rene
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Rene Zandbergen, 2004.
As for the 'sphi-':
The Sph*nx will understand from the attached sheet what my friend Mr Georg Barschius wanted to have written by me.
Sphi modo quae Amicus meus M. Georg Barschius per me scribi uoluerit, et schaedata hic adiuncta intelliget.
Remembering that the writer was likely not intending classical Latin:-
sphinges modo quae ... Barschius per me scribi voluerit.
puzzling manner whereby ... Barschius for me chose to write
'for' meaning 'for my benefit'
... et schaedata hic adiuncta intelliget.
... et schifrata hic adiuncta intelliget. ciphers.
... et schismata hic adiuncta intelliget. things cut out.
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