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The quest for Anchiton
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Anton wrote:
Quote:Searcher suggests that "anchiton" is just a later distortion of "amianton", however I don't see it that simple. One reason why I think so is that "amianton" per se does not appear very solid
I excuse for that I was not exact in expression of my thought in my post about words "anchiton" and "amianton", when I used word "incorrect". Actually my thought was not that the word "anchiton" is incorrect or distorted from the word "amianton". It would be more accurate to say "another" word, that is, Nicholas de Lyra, apparently, intentionally changed the word "amianton" to "anchiton" , although, he learned Hebrew and sought to reproduce texts as literally as he could, studying both Greek and Hebrew texts. In the same time, the Hebrew texts had the word "shettim" for this substance (wood, etc.). Why he uses the word "anchiton" and from which sources, it is not clear. Perhaps, it is just from the legend about Alexander, but, maybe, there are another texts, not available to us, which contain this word. 

Quote from the Wikipedia page "Nicholas of Lira" :
Quote:The textual basis was so important that he urged that errors be corrected with reference to Hebrew texts, an early glimmer of techniques of textual criticism, though Nicholas recognized the authoritative value of the Church's Tradition:
"I protest that I do not intend to assert or determine anything that has not been manifestly determined by Sacred Scripture or by the authority of the Church... Wherefore I submit all I have said or shall say to the correction of Holy Mother Church and of all learned men..." (Second Prologue to Postillae).
Nicholas utilized all sources available to him, fully mastered Hebrew and drew copiously from Rashi and other rabbinic commentaries, the Pugio Fidei of Raymond Martini and of course the commentaries of St. Thomas Aquinas. 
P.S.
It is pretty possible that this word is taken by Nicholas from Thomas Aquinas, I tried, but couldn't find such.  Maybe, someone will be luckier to find it.
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The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 22-10-2018, 04:46 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 22-10-2018, 07:11 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 22-10-2018, 10:05 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 23-10-2018, 12:40 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 23-10-2018, 12:49 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 23-10-2018, 11:34 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 23-10-2018, 01:33 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 23-10-2018, 02:08 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 23-10-2018, 09:30 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 23-10-2018, 10:39 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 23-10-2018, 09:57 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 23-10-2018, 10:47 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 24-10-2018, 12:27 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 24-10-2018, 08:22 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 24-10-2018, 12:10 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 24-10-2018, 02:12 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 24-10-2018, 07:03 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by davidjackson - 24-10-2018, 07:41 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by nablator - 24-10-2018, 09:11 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Helmut Winkler - 24-10-2018, 07:47 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 24-10-2018, 10:00 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 25-10-2018, 05:59 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 25-10-2018, 09:38 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by VViews - 25-10-2018, 11:37 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 25-10-2018, 11:55 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 25-10-2018, 11:57 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 25-10-2018, 12:11 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 25-10-2018, 12:56 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Koen G - 25-10-2018, 01:56 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 25-10-2018, 09:19 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 25-10-2018, 06:16 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 25-10-2018, 07:41 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 25-10-2018, 10:35 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 25-10-2018, 08:41 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 25-10-2018, 08:58 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 25-10-2018, 09:04 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 25-10-2018, 09:52 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 25-10-2018, 10:29 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 25-10-2018, 10:47 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by DONJCH - 25-10-2018, 10:48 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 25-10-2018, 10:53 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 26-10-2018, 12:20 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 26-10-2018, 10:17 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 27-10-2018, 12:10 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 26-10-2018, 10:52 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 27-10-2018, 01:21 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 27-10-2018, 11:20 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 28-10-2018, 02:12 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 28-10-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 28-10-2018, 01:21 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 28-10-2018, 03:24 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 28-10-2018, 06:56 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 28-10-2018, 08:37 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 28-10-2018, 09:38 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 28-10-2018, 11:00 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 28-10-2018, 11:42 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Koen G - 29-10-2018, 12:09 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by ReneZ - 29-10-2018, 09:24 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Searcher - 29-10-2018, 09:26 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 31-10-2018, 12:16 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 31-10-2018, 07:20 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 31-10-2018, 07:42 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 31-10-2018, 07:48 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 29-02-2020, 12:34 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 29-02-2020, 07:48 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by -JKP- - 29-02-2020, 08:28 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Koen G - 29-02-2020, 08:47 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by DONJCH - 01-03-2020, 01:03 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Koen G - 01-03-2020, 01:41 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 01-03-2020, 11:15 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Anton - 02-03-2020, 12:16 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 19-07-2025, 05:27 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Koen G - 19-07-2025, 05:36 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 19-07-2025, 05:54 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by magnesium - 20-07-2025, 04:42 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by nablator - 20-07-2025, 11:02 AM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Ruby Novacna - 20-07-2025, 01:04 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by Juan_Sali - 20-07-2025, 01:30 PM
RE: The quest for Anchiton - by MarcoP - 21-07-2025, 10:28 AM

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