24-10-2018, 07:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 24-10-2018, 07:29 PM by MarcoP.
Edit Reason: not clear what is by De Lyre and what by Bede
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(22-10-2018, 04:46 PM)Anton wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Searcher found the mention of "anchiton" in comments to the Bible by Nicolas de Lyra, as printed in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in 1549. This Lyra was a Frenchman living in XIII - XIV centuries, and he was a great authority upon the Bible, with his comments widely referred to in the Western world for centuries to come.
In fact, the messy layout of the book makes it difficult to decide whether the comment of interest is by de Lyra or from Glossa Ordinaria, but anyway its comment to Exodus 27 runs as this:
Quote:Nec mirum hoc de sanctuario et interioribus templi et altaris et thymiamatis credere, cuius etiam anchiton ligni genus vel ligno simile, quanto plus arserit tanto mundius inveniatur.
A translation would be welcome, but with the help of Google I understand that this refers to "anchiton" as a kind of wood that cannot be destroyed by fire, only emerges from fire cleaner than it was.
Exodus 27:1 in itself is about making the altar of the "shittim" wood:
Quote:And thou shalt make an altar of shittim wood...
As VViews pointed out, the "thymiamatis" of the biblical comment and the "shittim" (or "setim") of the Bible are the same thing, something of Acacia species.
In the preceding sentences, the text discusses how a wooden altar was not burnt by fire: Bede quotes Jerome, saying that the altar was made of "heavenly wood" ("de lignis paradisi"). Our sentence follows:
Quote:Nec mirum hoc de sanctuario et interioribus templi et altari thymiamatis(*) credere, cum etiam anchiton ligni genus vel ligno simile, quanto plus arserit tanto mundius inveniatur.
(*) I believe that "altaris et thymiamatis" is an error in the 1545 book. I follow You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. instead.
Translation: It is not strange to believe this [what Jerome says] about the sanctuary, and the interior of the temple, and the incense altar, since also "anchiton," a kind of wood or something similar to wood, the more was burnt the cleaner is found.
This time I have to disagree with VViews. This work seems to use "thymiama" as "incense" or something similar. For instance You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. "cella thymiamatis sive storacis" (the storeroom of thymiama or storax).

