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That's a good methodological point. It makes sense indeed to observe the contexts of "sonims". But I don't see at as implied conditional. Consider the folio 20v that I referred to above. Let's take the second paragraph which contains three "sonims". It's above me to translate the whole lengthy passage, but it seems to be a sequential iterative procedure. First you fill the cup with something and have it half full ("hastu des ein halben becher"), then you fill it with something else and have it full ("hastu ein ganzer <sorry for my German grammar> becher"), and so on. And in between you take something (half the "mos" or the whole "mos", dunno what "mos" is), and that is expressed by "so nim". If one undertakes the complete translation of this cookery that might bring further insight.
Let's then take (so nim, if you will) the next paragraph. It appears a brief abstract (something is good ("gut") for something) followed by the detailed explanation - a format seen also elsewhere in the book. The "details" run as follows: on the eighth day before St. John's day "so nim" ye something which I can't translate etc.
Looks like "so" in "so nim" carries some modality in it, like "should". I wonder if "soll" does not descend from this "so".
As a sidenote, is "hastu" another way of saying "hast du"? Another Swiss expression like those hinted by Aga Tentakulus above in the thread?
(05-01-2020, 12:53 AM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(05-01-2020, 12:32 AM)Anton wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view."so nim" seems to be kinda "template" phrasing, it's literally scattered across the pages, e.g. in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. it's encountered at least four times.
What is interesting is that it gives us an idea of the kind of phrase to expect before "so nim". It is often an implied conditional. Do you want to make a cake? Then take flour and...
That's a good methodological point. It makes sense indeed to observe the contexts of "sonims". But I don't see at as implied conditional. Consider the folio 20v that I referred to above. Let's take the second paragraph which contains three "sonims". It's above me to translate the whole lengthy passage, but it seems to be a sequential iterative procedure. First you fill the cup with something and have it half full ("hastu des ein halben becher"), then you fill it with something else and have it full ("hastu ein ganzer <sorry for my German grammar> becher"), and so on. And in between you take something (half the "mos" or the whole "mos", dunno what "mos" is), and that is expressed by "so nim". If one undertakes the complete translation of this cookery that might bring further insight.
Let's then take (so nim, if you will) the next paragraph. It appears a brief abstract (something is good ("gut") for something) followed by the detailed explanation - a format seen also elsewhere in the book. The "details" run as follows: on the eighth day before St. John's day "so nim" ye something which I can't translate etc.
Looks like "so" in "so nim" carries some modality in it, like "should". I wonder if "soll" does not descend from this "so".
As a sidenote, is "hastu" another way of saying "hast du"? Another Swiss expression like those hinted by Aga Tentakulus above in the thread?