Hi Marco,
I've selected those two diagrams because they accidentally relate to some distict discussions in the forum: the swapping of fields in T-O maps and the null-labels. The "null-labels" is Mark Knowles's idea which we discussed recently in the thread about labels. One of his arguments was that if so many labels start with "o", then those may be just null-labels - which are just a subset of the more general set of null-vords introduced to confuse the future would-be decipherers (like ourselves).
The diagram of this Lullian MS is a good example that many labels starting with the same character is a perfectly valid scenario in itself, and it does not necessarily invoke the need for the null-label concept.
About the prefixes. Yes, I remember that Stephen's idea about "al-", in fact I think I referred to it in the labels thread. In star diagrams like f68 that would be appropriate because many star names are Arabic.
My idea has been that o-, qo-, y-, and I already don't remember which other prefix, stand for operators like basic function words which can be equally applied to nouns and perhaps other parts of speech. This in itself presumes the synthetic-language scenario, which may or may not be based on a nomenclator in respect of nouns. If it is, then one can imagine possible reasons for predominance of ot- and ok- over other starting bigrams. Actually, if we strip the o-, then that predominance means that there is the predominance of vords (let's say nouns) starting with "t" and "k". Hence I would suspect that vords starting with "t" and "k" - not all of them, perhaps, but only those occurring as parts of labels,- are two nomenclator sets of notions homogenous in a certain respect. Like, to describe objects of the set A, the author used "t" as the starting character, and to descibe objects od the set "B", the author used "k" as the starting character. So the starting character (the prefix being stripped) is a sub-nomenclator marker.
I have not done anything to confirm or disprove this idea, it's just a raw idea out of the box!
How many these subvords (those starting with k, and those starting with t) are there in the labels? Is it tens, scores or hundreds?
I've selected those two diagrams because they accidentally relate to some distict discussions in the forum: the swapping of fields in T-O maps and the null-labels. The "null-labels" is Mark Knowles's idea which we discussed recently in the thread about labels. One of his arguments was that if so many labels start with "o", then those may be just null-labels - which are just a subset of the more general set of null-vords introduced to confuse the future would-be decipherers (like ourselves).
The diagram of this Lullian MS is a good example that many labels starting with the same character is a perfectly valid scenario in itself, and it does not necessarily invoke the need for the null-label concept.
About the prefixes. Yes, I remember that Stephen's idea about "al-", in fact I think I referred to it in the labels thread. In star diagrams like f68 that would be appropriate because many star names are Arabic.
My idea has been that o-, qo-, y-, and I already don't remember which other prefix, stand for operators like basic function words which can be equally applied to nouns and perhaps other parts of speech. This in itself presumes the synthetic-language scenario, which may or may not be based on a nomenclator in respect of nouns. If it is, then one can imagine possible reasons for predominance of ot- and ok- over other starting bigrams. Actually, if we strip the o-, then that predominance means that there is the predominance of vords (let's say nouns) starting with "t" and "k". Hence I would suspect that vords starting with "t" and "k" - not all of them, perhaps, but only those occurring as parts of labels,- are two nomenclator sets of notions homogenous in a certain respect. Like, to describe objects of the set A, the author used "t" as the starting character, and to descibe objects od the set "B", the author used "k" as the starting character. So the starting character (the prefix being stripped) is a sub-nomenclator marker.
I have not done anything to confirm or disprove this idea, it's just a raw idea out of the box!
How many these subvords (those starting with k, and those starting with t) are there in the labels? Is it tens, scores or hundreds?
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