06-03-2023, 12:41 AM
On topic: Anton, those are some really creative ideas to explain the reduplication, especially the one about ordered preferencing. You're right that it would struggle to hold up against both the number and the range of reduplications, and if it were part of a "solution", it would seem special pleading. But it is an intriguing way of providing a potential explanation for some of the pairs, and also the way some of the manuscript appears to show list-like behaviour. I'm trying to imagine what it could be in the (possible) context of the manuscript: ordered lists of medicines or habits to do each day? Lists of what should be done or should not be done according to astrology?
Another explanation - but I think less likely and covering only a couple of pairs - could be down to how we parse the pair. e.g. when we see daiin daiin, are those truly identical, or could the "minim" glyphs represent different plain text letters?
Off topic: I think this thread will need to be split off into a Turkish thread, the way it is going.
Ahmed, you often talk rather scathingly or at best dismissively here and in your own thread about how those who don't accept your theory, like us or the linguist reviews who refused to accept your journal article, aren't thinking scientifically or are mathematically illiterate, etc, etc. You keep hammering home the word "science". But on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., you said the English word "September" comes from the Turkish SERPMEK / SEPELEMEK and connected it with raining. This is not linguistics. This is pseudo-linguistics. It is not a scientific approach. It is a pseudo-scientific approach.
If you want your theory accepted, if you want reviewers to approve your articles, you need to fix this huge problem that is at the core of your methodology. When the methodology is rotten, the results will always been seen as tainted. Saying you've found 100 Turkish words, 250 Turkish words, now apparently 1000 Turkish words and repeating over and over that such a coincidence is mathematically impossible is not going to bring your theory acceptance. Especially when i) others including people on this thread have spotted lots of words in a different language (why is theirs a mathetically possible coincidence and yours a mathematically impossible coincidence?); ii) you often have to make adjustments or accommodations or make instances of special pleading to match it to Turkish, and you do not seem to analyse these; and iii) for all we know, all 1000 identifications could be like September.
Another explanation - but I think less likely and covering only a couple of pairs - could be down to how we parse the pair. e.g. when we see daiin daiin, are those truly identical, or could the "minim" glyphs represent different plain text letters?
(05-03-2023, 11:53 PM)Ahmet Ardıç wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Maybe there is no material to write on this subject, what do you think?
Off topic: I think this thread will need to be split off into a Turkish thread, the way it is going.
Ahmed, you often talk rather scathingly or at best dismissively here and in your own thread about how those who don't accept your theory, like us or the linguist reviews who refused to accept your journal article, aren't thinking scientifically or are mathematically illiterate, etc, etc. You keep hammering home the word "science". But on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., you said the English word "September" comes from the Turkish SERPMEK / SEPELEMEK and connected it with raining. This is not linguistics. This is pseudo-linguistics. It is not a scientific approach. It is a pseudo-scientific approach.
If you want your theory accepted, if you want reviewers to approve your articles, you need to fix this huge problem that is at the core of your methodology. When the methodology is rotten, the results will always been seen as tainted. Saying you've found 100 Turkish words, 250 Turkish words, now apparently 1000 Turkish words and repeating over and over that such a coincidence is mathematically impossible is not going to bring your theory acceptance. Especially when i) others including people on this thread have spotted lots of words in a different language (why is theirs a mathetically possible coincidence and yours a mathematically impossible coincidence?); ii) you often have to make adjustments or accommodations or make instances of special pleading to match it to Turkish, and you do not seem to analyse these; and iii) for all we know, all 1000 identifications could be like September.

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