22-07-2023, 11:12 AM
I was assuming that everyone knows, but perhaps not...
There has been quite a discussion on the word 'poxleber' in the old forum, as Rich Santacoloma used it as an argument that the MS is a modern fake.
Without going into all that, the term 'poxleber' was argued to be first used as an expletive in the work of Hans Sachs. In fact, it was used already before, in the Festnachtspiele of Hans Folz.
I always considered (without knowing for certain) that use of a word as an expletive implies that the word in its regular meaning should already have existed earlier.
In any case, a reader at Rich's blog wrote this:
There has been quite a discussion on the word 'poxleber' in the old forum, as Rich Santacoloma used it as an argument that the MS is a modern fake.
Without going into all that, the term 'poxleber' was argued to be first used as an expletive in the work of Hans Sachs. In fact, it was used already before, in the Festnachtspiele of Hans Folz.
I always considered (without knowing for certain) that use of a word as an expletive implies that the word in its regular meaning should already have existed earlier.
In any case, a reader at Rich's blog wrote this:
Quote:Here’s an older example of “poxleber”:
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This may take a while to load. The word is on p. 89. It’s from a 1503 law of the city of Kitzbühel (Tyrol) and here clearly just means a goat’s liver, not a curse as in the Hans Sachs play. Still not old enough for the C14 date of the VMS, but about 50 years older than the Sachs example.

