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Matching planet labels
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(18-10-2023, 08:21 AM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.One note of interest, of all these labels "okal" is by far the most common in VMS, occurring over 500 times. If, hypothetically, we are talking about a codex inspired by Roman/Greek pre-Christian beliefs, Jupiter could be called Jove/Iove/Deus/Zeus (which could explain the angle of the chart on f67r2: this label is on top there, and putting Jove on top should be natural for Jupiter worshipers).
The labels for planets that we see in Latin manuscripts often use the genitive case (because sphere of), that's why we get Veneris and Jovis instead of Venus and Jupiter. The modern conventions for writing Latin consonants v/j and vowels u/i differently did not apply of course: a cipher would use only u/i letters, not v/j.

The Greek genitive of Zeus would be You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

If there is a system for enciphering, the positional rigidity of Voynichese and low conditional entropy being what they are, it is unlikely that more than a few letters could be enciphered in such short labels, a mnemonic or abbreviation maybe?

It's hard to imagine how oka could work both for the 3rd and 6th classical planet, in Latin or Greek, unless there is a "one to many" mapping.

I doubt there were any Jupiter worshipers in the 15th century. Classical antiquity was a huge source of inspiration for the Renaissance, but always in a Christian framework.
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Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 09-10-2023, 07:28 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 10-10-2023, 05:55 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by merrimacga - 10-10-2023, 07:59 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 10-10-2023, 08:29 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by ReneZ - 10-10-2023, 06:59 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 10-10-2023, 07:01 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by MarcoP - 10-10-2023, 07:14 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 10-10-2023, 07:32 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by Koen G - 10-10-2023, 10:38 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 10-10-2023, 10:55 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by merrimacga - 10-10-2023, 11:33 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by Koen G - 10-10-2023, 12:03 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by Juan_Sali - 10-10-2023, 12:12 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 10-10-2023, 12:48 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by MarcoP - 10-10-2023, 05:33 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 10-10-2023, 06:24 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 11-10-2023, 05:40 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by MarcoP - 11-10-2023, 07:48 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 12-10-2023, 07:36 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 13-10-2023, 06:07 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 14-10-2023, 12:28 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 23-10-2023, 11:44 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 14-10-2023, 07:29 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by R. Sale - 16-10-2023, 05:44 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 16-10-2023, 07:50 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by R. Sale - 16-10-2023, 08:14 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by R. Sale - 16-10-2023, 08:37 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 03:49 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by R. Sale - 16-10-2023, 10:49 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 04:10 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by MarcoP - 17-10-2023, 09:25 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by Helmut Winkler - 17-10-2023, 10:15 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by Aga Tentakulus - 17-10-2023, 07:59 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 08:08 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 08:57 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by bi3mw - 17-10-2023, 08:58 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 09:19 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 09:56 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by MarcoP - 17-10-2023, 05:25 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 05:50 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 17-10-2023, 06:02 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 11:22 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 11:37 AM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 17-10-2023, 04:26 PM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 04:56 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 17-10-2023, 05:16 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 05:30 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 17-10-2023, 05:49 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 05:57 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 17-10-2023, 06:05 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 17-10-2023, 06:13 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 17-10-2023, 07:06 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 18-10-2023, 08:21 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 18-10-2023, 09:14 AM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 18-10-2023, 09:45 AM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by R. Sale - 17-10-2023, 06:06 PM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 18-10-2023, 10:05 AM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 18-10-2023, 11:11 AM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 18-10-2023, 05:23 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 18-10-2023, 05:33 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by nablator - 18-10-2023, 05:49 PM
RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 19-10-2023, 05:50 AM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 19-10-2023, 11:15 AM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by oshfdk - 20-10-2023, 10:22 AM
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RE: Matching planet labels - by R. Sale - 06-11-2023, 10:09 PM
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