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GPT Models Fail to Find Language Structure in the Voynich Manuscript
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(02-07-2025, 06:34 PM)quimqu wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So while it’s an open question what exactly Voynichese tokens represent, the GPT’s failure to learn even short sequences suggests something deeper than just a mismatch in segmentation level. It might be structural.

It is very likely that the situation is exactly as you describe it. I just think that using a black box like GPT for analysis should be accompanied with very strict definition of what the inputs mean exactly and how exactly we interpret the outputs and why. Black boxes already introduce a lot of uncertainty by themselves, when we multiply uncertainties, weird things can happen.
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RE: GPT Models Fail to Find Language Structure in the Voynich Manuscript - by oshfdk - 02-07-2025, 07:20 PM

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