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References to sources:

а) From a treatise on agriculture (13th century, northern France):
"Quant la fle du pommier est tendre, il la faut lier au bâton, qu’elle ne se brise."
"When an apple tree shoot is tender, it must be tied to a stick so that it does not break."
("Le Livre des profits champêtres",anonymous agricultural manuscript, BN Français 12420)
б) In a poem about gardening (14th century):
"La fle de la rose naist en mai, blanche et vermeille."
"A rose shoot is born in May, white and scarlet."
("Le Roman de la Rose" (XIV), MS. Harley 4425, British Library)
в) In Norman dialects (15th century record):
"Les flees des cerisiers sont bonnes à greffer."
"Cherry shoots are good for grafting."
("Glossaire du patois normand", J. Morand, 1852, based on earlier entries)

These look all fake. When you ask for sources, ChatGPT and other LLMs often create fake ones. Unless you can check the sources yourself, don't trust anything they say.

BN Français 12420 does not contain any anonymous agricultural manuscript: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

"La fle de la rose naist en mai, blanche et vermeille." does not seem to be in "Le Roman de la Rose", I checked all 4 tomes (available in Project Gutemberg). It's probably hallucinated from "Flors y ot blanches et vermeilles" in tome I (its flowers are white and scarlet)

Google doesn't know any "Glossaire du patois normand" by J. Morand, 1852. This one has the same title, a different author and date: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Fle is not in this dictionary. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Flee, yes, but it does not mean "shoot". You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.