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Token-level rules applied to EVA transcripts – reproducible code example
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Hi!

The below is an image containing various labels that appear next to images in the MS. Using your rules could you explain the meaning of the labels and how they relate to the images.

Second image down to the right, 


Voynich Labels (EVA transcription):

olal

qotedy

olchedy

qokeody

Rule-Based Decoding:

olal → ol- (vessel/container) + -al (cycle/liquid marker) → liquid vessel / containing channel.

qotedy → qo- (process) + t/ot (infuse/prepare) + -edy (preparation) → prepared infusion.

olchedy → ol- (vessel/container) + che- (herb/plant) + -dy (unit) → vessel of plant material.

qokeody → qok- (boil/infuse) + -dy (substance) → infused extract / boiled substance.

Plain English rendering of the sequence:
“Vessel/containment – prepared infusion – herbal vessel – infused extract.”

Why it fits the imagery:
Each woman is holding a star (marker of process/stage). The labels read like a short recipe cycle: starting with a vessel, moving to a prepared infusion, then a vessel with herbs, and ending in an infused extract.

This isn’t a full translation — it’s a step-by-step application of substitution rules, leaving gaps where the rules don’t reach yet. But it shows how the labels and imagery reinforce each other in a structured way.

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Hi!

The below is an image containing various labels that appear next to images in the MS. Using your rules could you explain the meaning of the labels and how they relate to the images.

Third image, second row right side,

Voynich Labels (EVA transcription, outer ring, clockwise):

olchedy

olkeeody

olchedy

olkeeody

olkeeody

Rule-Based Decoding (outer ring):

olchedy → ol- (vessel/container) + che- (herb/plant) + -dy (unit) → vessel of plant material.

olkeeody → ol- (vessel/container) + kee- (cycle/liquid variant) + -ody (base matter) → vessel of liquid matter / cycle container.

So the outer ring repeats variations of “herbal vessel” and “liquid vessel.”

Inner Band (longer text, partial transcription):
dair olkeeody kaiin dain otol …

olkeeody again = vessel/container of liquid/base matter.

dain (common Voynichese word, appears often as marker) = cycle/again.

otol contains ol = vessel/container, possibly a variant on “contained liquid.”

Expansion (illustrative): “Cycle of vessels/liquid containers repeated again …”

Plain English Rendering (overall):
“Vessel with herbs – vessel with liquid – vessel with herbs – vessel with liquid … cycle of vessels repeated.”

Why it fits the imagery:
The circular layout itself visually emphasizes repetition and cycling of containers. The text echoes that: alternating “herbal vessel” and “liquid vessel” around the ring, with the inner band reinforcing the idea of cycles/again. It’s a diagrammatic recipe of alternating vessels rather than a narrative sentence.


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RE: Token-level rules applied to EVA transcripts – reproducible code example - by fran9262 - 24-09-2025, 07:53 PM

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