(02-11-2025, 08:46 PM)quimqu wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(02-11-2025, 08:37 PM)Fengist wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ok, so I had to verify this with my assistant. Forgive me but to save typing time, I give you their response.
Excuse me... no AI assistant can help you with things nobody knows. They are useful for other things, but if your assistant is giving you the answers, this does not look good at all.
This was not a case of knowing what nobody knows. This was a case of taking math, statistical modelling and performing well known tests on the STRUCTURE of the Voynich. Algorithms and formulas that have been designed over years to peek into the structure of all languages and produce mathematical results. I was doing Levenshtein distance tests on the Voynich and Vulgate in PHP 20 years ago (if not 20 years, sure feels like it). The AI's barely knows what Voynichese looks like. What it does know is how often quo- appears in the text and how often it occurs at the beginning of a word or sentence. I am not claiming to have decoded it. No, no AI knows that and even with what I've found, I doubt it'll ever be fully decoded. What I am claiming is, that there is a well-defined, rule-governed, repeatable, falsifiable structure within the Voynich that follows MATHEMATICAL rules.
You may not know Latin. But, if you study it, you can determine it's structure. Nouns, verbs, adjectives. You may never know what those words mean but you know what role they play in the language.
AI's do know math.
And YES they are giving me answers because they did the math and therefore they have that information at hand. MATHEMATICAL answers. This was not a case of me saying, "Hey, ChatGPT. Crack the Voynich for me." Give me a little credit here. What I have done is no different than any other researcher who spent millions to build and train some AI to study a language or the computer you're using to post on these forums. Or even more academic-like, have your research assistant or PhD candidate do it. You hand the math over to them, go have a coffee and verify the results.
I'm not saying the math is perfect either. There are likely mistakes in the math. Which is why I'm looking for someone to VERIFY what I've done.
Right now, I'm just putting this out there and see what bites.