15-03-2026, 11:17 AM
When it comes to the spelling of long-s at the end of the word, dating absolutely matters. If we respect what's on the page and assume it is later than 1400, it says "gasmich" in one word.
For the language it also matters. Apparently, the corpus only goes up to 1350 because that is the traditional cutoff point of "classical" MHG. I am no expert on this particular topic, but I assume there is a reason for this cutoff.
Apart from that, I keep repeating that the word order "so take quickly me" is unnatural, also in MHG. Proponents of the "gahes mich" reading choose to ignore this rather than address it, even though (going by what Torsten wrote above), Huth changed the word order himself to the perfectly acceptable "so nimm mich ganz."
In the snippets Torsten posted, the word order is the expected one each time:
There's a lot one needs to ignore and gloss over in order to validate a "gahes mich" reading.
I do agree that there is potential in some interpretation of the shape of "a". Maybe it's even a macron, making it "so nim gansmich" or "gamsmich".
For the language it also matters. Apparently, the corpus only goes up to 1350 because that is the traditional cutoff point of "classical" MHG. I am no expert on this particular topic, but I assume there is a reason for this cutoff.
Apart from that, I keep repeating that the word order "so take quickly me" is unnatural, also in MHG. Proponents of the "gahes mich" reading choose to ignore this rather than address it, even though (going by what Torsten wrote above), Huth changed the word order himself to the perfectly acceptable "so nimm mich ganz."
In the snippets Torsten posted, the word order is the expected one each time:
- "they ate quickly", NOT "they quickly ate"
- "and asked him quickly" NOT "and asked quickly him"
- Not sure of how to read the third one. The language and spelling conventions here are not those of the 15th century German I'm used to.
There's a lot one needs to ignore and gloss over in order to validate a "gahes mich" reading.
I do agree that there is potential in some interpretation of the shape of "a". Maybe it's even a macron, making it "so nim gansmich" or "gamsmich".

