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[JoJo_Jost]

But while your examples are indeed a bit taller than minim-height, they are still smaller than the "8"s of f116v, and, more importantly, very different in shape and stroke order.  They do not prove your point al all.

I’ve seen it several times that the 8 at the end was written larger. And the 8 in the VMS is indeed larger than the lowercase letters, but also smaller than the letters with ascenders. So exactly as in the example I provided.

And as I said, there’s really no need to dwell on the style of handwriting. I’ve seen all sorts of variations of the rounded “s.” This line of reasoning really leads nowhere.

I suppose you are aware that Germanwriters have the disconcertinghabit of omitting wordspaces in longnominalphrases.    

Yes, but the actual word is “Erbsen” or “Erbse”; here, “Erbs” is a shortened form in which the ‘en’ / “e” is missing. And in that sense, it’s probably related to the fact that the word is written as one word. Normally, the “s” here would be written with a long “s.”

“lin” = “lein” is a diminutive form—an added syllable—so “lin” has no independent status relative to the syllable “spis.”

The two examples are so good precisely because you can assume that in one case, but not in the other. 

That is why your point wouldbe helped by an example of a word ending in "-sen" with a small-8 letter "s".

Unfortunately, it’s a bit difficult to find texts like that, because very few of them specify exactly which “s” was used. I’ve provided the evidence; just because you don’t like it—and for very questionable reasons at that—I don't search any longer. 

Because even if that were the case, you’re assuming there were very strict rules, but there weren’t. You can see this in the examples itself.

1. In “Spislein,” two different “s”s are used in a single word: the long “s” at the beginning and the round “s” in the middle.

And as for the other round “s” = 8, which even appears in the middle of a sentence at the beginning of the word “so,” (after wiltu) I was able to refute your objection that it was the beginning of a sentence, since it’s written differently (after wiltu) depending on the paragraph.

So we also have another example of an “s” as 8 at the beginning of a word!
I really don’t think I need to provide any more examples just because you don’t want to believe it. The examples shows that there was a writing anarchy!

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Well, the very idea that he never saw other parts of the VMS is more than questionable and unlikely. If that were the case, how could he have written those two clearly recognizable VMS words in 116?

1. But you have other problems as well: Obviously, he recognized the tokens, but three words in nearly consecutive order ending in an 8 (which he would have had to construct) are extremely rare in the Voynich Manuscript.

2. The beginning would be an “m” (mchiton); “m” almost never appears at the beginning. 

3. The same applies to “marix morix”—well, maybe he read “aiin” as “m,” but then what was encrypted as “ix,” which comes after “aiin”?

4. The downward-pointing “q” strokes would therefore have to have originated from the “y,” but in 116 they exclusively appear at the beginning of words. I know this does happen in the VMS too, but it’s much rarer.

So the question is, how much else was he able to read, and what did he make of it? But if you look at the handwriting, it somehow doesn’t look like incorrectly reconstructed Voynich text—not as a single word, but when viewed as a whole.