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(This post was last modified: 4 hours ago by Jorge_Stolfi.)
(Yesterday, 09:26 PM)Mauro wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I agree with you that p/f are not the same as ke/te. Some time ago I tested this hypothesis by measuring the (root-mean-square, Euclidean) distances of the distributions of the preceding and of the following character for the glyphs 'p', 'f', 'ke' and 'te' and they turned out to be quite dissimilar. 'ke' and 'te' were instead most similar to... themselves. The post is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I explored a little more the behaviour of 'k' and 't' ('p' and 'f' are rare glyphs and I'm not sure if statistics on those would be reliable), which are quite similar (by the above metric) among them: it turned out 'ok' and 'ot' are even more close than 'k', 't' alone, and removing 'ok'/'ot' removes also most of the similarity between 'k' and 't'.
I did not follow all the discussion on the "puffs" that went on for the last 20 years. But the conclusion I recall from my own statistics was
- in their prev-char distributions, p/f resemble both k/t and ke/te;
- in their next-char distributions, on the other hand, they resemble ke/te much more than k/t
Also, last year I got the idea that maybe p/f with a straight arm are fancy version of k/t, whereas p/f with a hooked arm are fancy versions of ke/te. That could explain why the nature of p/f remained baffling. Imagine the zoologists' confusion about the diet and habits of geese if they dismissed as irrelevant individual variations the visual differences between geese and seagulls.
So I spent several days revising the p/f in the interlinear file and changing them to w/z if they had a hooked arm. But I never finished that project, because I could not avoid noticing that the degree of "hooking" was a continuous variable rather than a binary trait. It did seem like it was just a meaningless calligraphic flourish, as every transcriber (me included) had previously assumed.
But maybe I should go back and actually compute the statistics for the pages I managed to revise. For one thing, it is quite possible that the apparent continuity of "hooking" was another consequence of the fading ink and subsequent global restoration...
All the best, --stolfi

