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• RE: Collecting comparative data for the f116v script

  Koen G > 17-07-2023, 03:22 PM

  Marco and I are currently trying to fill out some holes in the map. Some of the areas that are missing are the north-east and north-west of Germany. So we are looking for 15th century charters (Urkunden) or similar documents from cities like:
  
  West: Bonn, Cologne, Düsseldorf, Essen, Aachen, Trier...
  East: Anything around Berlin and to its north
  
  Any 15th century documents made in these regions will do, the more the better. You will be credited.

• RE: Collecting comparative data for the f116v script

  bi3mw > 17-07-2023, 04:55 PM

  Not a charter, but a work from Cologne (?) at the time of the creation of the VMS:
  
  1436 copy of four tracts by Johannes Gerson made by Johannes Veghe from Münster for his own use.
  Handwritten, one hand, Gothic hybrida formata. Marginal notes by scribe's hand and some later hands (15th century).
  Tractat[us] de [con]solacio[n]e theologie jncipit feliciter.
  Münster ? ; Cologne ?, 1436
  
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• RE: Collecting comparative data for the f116v script

  MarcoP > 17-07-2023, 05:15 PM

  Thank you, Matthias. We are actually looking for Cursiva (with loops on b,h,k,l) rather than Hybrida. Something closer to 116v is the annotation at the end, where a guy bought the book from the original author (1450), but the location is unclear. This one is also interesting because it features uncial d (with no loop), like "oladabas".
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  In a few cases, archives for the individual German Länder proved useful, but sometimes they are hard to find or to use.

• RE: Collecting comparative data for the f116v script

  nablator > 17-07-2023, 06:10 PM

  Köln 1431:
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  Straßburg, 1444:
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  Hagenau, 1400:
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• RE: Collecting comparative data for the f116v script

  Koen G > 18-07-2023, 10:03 AM

  (17-07-2023, 06:10 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Köln 1431:
  Straßburg, 1444:
  Hagenau, 1400:

  
  Thanks, that's exactly what we're looking for. Do you think there exists a website with charters from Alsace? I looked around but didn't immediately find anything useful, might be the German/French language barrier.

• RE: Collecting comparative data for the f116v script

  nablator > 18-07-2023, 01:37 PM

  (18-07-2023, 10:03 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (17-07-2023, 06:10 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Köln 1431:
  Straßburg, 1444:
  Hagenau, 1400:

  
  Thanks, that's exactly what we're looking for. Do you think there exists a website with charters from Alsace? I looked around but didn't immediately find anything useful, might be the German/French language barrier.

  
  I don't know. There are many "chartes de franchise" to be found in the archives départementales, but not often digitized.
  
  For example (département de l'Aude):
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