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  Conjectures about the “man without attributes” ( f85r2 )
Posted by: bi3mw - 11-01-2025, 11:41 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (38)

Here we can speculate as to what the man in the top center might represent. My guess is the following:

1) The hooked nose is striking. In the Middle Ages, connections were made between a person's physiognomy and his characteristics. Polemon wrote:

Polemon: Textbook of Physiognomy
Chapter XXVI <Physiognomics of the nose>.
....
The nose of a vulture ... and blunt betrays fornication and a predilection for sensuality.
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2) The large ring also stands out, possibly indicating the man's high status.

3) The hand gesture with the accentuated fingertip of the index finger could represent the so-called “digitus virilis” (cf. Ger. eleventh/stiff finger 'the eleventh/stiff finger'). In the Rutland Psalter such a gesture is very probably depicted as marginalia.
   

We could therefore be dealing with a frivolous nobleman. Perhaps a metaphor for spring ? This is of course all highly speculative, but in my opinion quite possible.

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  Could the multi-point stars be edelweiss depictions?
Posted by: Dobri - 11-01-2025, 02:23 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (4)

Could the multi-point stars which presumably are used to signal a footnote and also are held by bathing nymphs be edelweiss depictions?

The edelweiss (noble-white, Leontopodium nivale) flowers have five to six small yellow clustered spikelet-florets (5 mm, 3⁄16 in) surrounded by fuzzy white "petals" (technically, bracts) in a double-star formation, see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

Similarly, the stars in the cypher manuscript have a yellow center and multiple (five, six, seven, eight or nine) white rays.

Note that in other star depictions from the 15th century, the stars are shown entirely in yellow and do not have white rays.

Please kindly share your opinions.

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Photo Does folio 70v reveal that '8' is the letter 'd'?
Posted by: Dobri - 11-01-2025, 10:54 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text - Replies (10)

The attached image hints at the possibility that the scribe inadvertently revealed in folio 70v (Pisces) that '8' is in fact 'd'.



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  Could this work?
Posted by: GlennM - 11-01-2025, 05:13 AM - Forum: Analysis of the text - Replies (4)

Abstract of work by Alexander Hartman

A percolation model inspired by crossword puzzle games is introduced. A game proceeds by solving words, which are segments of sites in a two-dimensional lattice. As a test case, the iid variant allows for independently occupying sites with letters, only the percolation criterion depends on the existence of solved words. For the game variant, inspired by real crossword puzzles, it becomes more likely to solve crossing words which share sites with the already solved words. In this way avalanches of solved words may occur. Both model variants exhibit a percolation transition as a function of the a priori site or word solving probability, respectively. The iid variant is in the universality class of standard two-dimensional percolation. The game variant exhibits a nonuniversal critical exponent ? of the correlation length. The actual value of ? depends on the function which controls how much solved words accelerate the solution of crossing words.
A percolation model inspired by crossword puzzle games is introduced. A game proceeds by solving words, which are segments of sites in a two-dimensional lattice. As a test case, the iid variant allows for independently occupying sites with letters, only the percolation criterion depends on the existence of solved words. For the game variant, inspired by real crossword puzzles, it becomes more likely to solve crossing words which share sites with the already solved words. In this way avalanches of solved words may occur. Both model variants exhibit a percolation transition as a function of the a priori site or word solving probability, respectively. The iid variant is in the universality class of standard two-dimensional percolation. The game variant exhibits a nonuniversal critical exponent [size=1]? of the correlation length. The actual value of ? depends on the function which controls how much solved words accelerate the solution of crossing words.[/size]

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  Getting close to a source for f85r2
Posted by: Koen G - 07-01-2025, 10:31 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (213)

I was digging deep into the "Hausbuchs" and related traditions. Bull hunting, you know. This eventually led me to the Katalog der deutschsprachigen illustrierten Handschriften des Mittelalters (KdiH). 

This led me to the section: 87.3. Heinrich Laufenberg, ›Regimen‹  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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Now comes the important part. In three consecutive folios (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.), we see:

  • A lady with a flower (summer of life)
  • An older woman with a stick and a chain (autumn of life)
  • A doctor with a skull cap holding up a vial of yellow urine to the light to perform uroscopy

Note that this MS is a bit late (1455), and it is part of a cluster of various very popular, interconnected traditions (like the Hausbuchs). I am not saying that this exact book was a source for the VM. Unfortunately, many of the other preserved ones closest to this one have their images missing one way or the other.

Anyway, here you go. To me, this is as close as I've ever gotten to proof that the VM makers used physical sources.

   

A bit on uroscopy and the appearance of doctors (machine translated from German):

Quote:Medical illustrations found in all subgroups are the bloodletting man , the zodiac man , the urine examination and the bloodletting . The latter forms of treatment were carried out by the physician, surgeon or barber. It is not possible to distinguish between the university-trained doctor, the surgeon and the barber based on the illustrations, so the descriptions do not specify them more precisely and always refer to the doctor or physician. In the picture they can be identified by various attributes such as the red cap (the so-called cappa), a long coat and a glass of urine.
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Uroscopy, which is frequently depicted , is performed by the doctor holding a glass of urine up to the light and thus analyzing the color and consistency. This activity is particularly significant for the representation of the profession of medicine

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Note that the large foldout (Rosettes+verso) uses no red. Blue may have been a substitute.

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  Let's all wear red and point at stars with a serious expression.
Posted by: Koen G - 07-01-2025, 07:47 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (3)

   


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The Hausbuch thickens.

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  Rosettes Key
Posted by: Mark Knowles - 07-01-2025, 12:07 PM - Forum: Voynich Talk - Replies (3)

After reading Rene's discussion of the asterisks on the Rosettes folio, I thought I would post a few images of other common illustrations that we see on the page.

On the top of the causeway connecting the bottom centre rosette to the bottom right rosette we see an illustration of circles with dots in the centre. We also see the same kind of illustration on the left side of the causeway between the bottom right rosette and the centre right rosette. I take these two to represent the same kind of thing. And given my map interpretation I view them as a representation of a certain kind of countryside. I have labelled them as rocky country,    although it is possible they could represent some else such as forest or another kind of countryside.



I think the images below both represent river deltas.



I think the following images represent big sea waves.



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  Two Paragraph Starters in Folio 1r
Posted by: Dobri - 06-01-2025, 04:07 PM - Forum: Imagery - Replies (19)

The second and third paragraphs in folio 1r have starters in the form of red embellishments which could be purely decorative or could hint at something.



The starter in the second paragraph could possibly be a stylized image of:

- a bird (eagle, seagull, dove, etc.);

- antlers; 

etc.



The starter in the third paragraph could possibly be a stylized image of:

- the Bowl of Hygieia with a snake above it;

- a hearth with rising smoke symbolizing Hestia or Vesta;

- a genie (jinn) jar;

etc.



Please kindly share your ideas about the two paragraph starters.

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  Absence of the Symbol Resembling '4' in the Very First Folio 1r
Posted by: Dobri - 05-01-2025, 05:33 PM - Forum: Analysis of the text - Replies (44)

The very first folio (folio 1r) seems to be the only folio in the entire cypher manuscript (except folio 65r) that does not contain the symbol resembling '4'.

The only exception is folio 65r which contains only 3 word tokens and a depiction of an unknown plant.

It appears for the first time in folio 1v (just once, followed by 'o') and after that is found multiple times in all subsequent folios (except folio 65r).

The observation that the entire folio 1r can be filled with word tokens without said symbol could indicate that it has a specific meaning which is probably described in folio 1v.

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  Pisces (Folio 70v) and the New Year on the 1st of March in the Republic of Venice
Posted by: Dobri - 05-01-2025, 12:58 PM - Forum: Astrology & Astronomy - Replies (52)

Folio 70v of the Voynich (cypher) manuscript contains the astrological depiction of Pisces (fishes).

Said depiction is surrounded by an inner ring of 10 naked females reclining horizontally with the lower half of their bodies in cylindrical tubs.

There is also an outer ring with 19 naked females standing vertically with the lower half of their bodies also in cylindrical tubs.

All females are having multi-pointed stars on a string.

Assuming that the manuscript originates from the Republic of Venice, one couldn't help but notice that the New Year in Venice in medieval times was on the 1st of March.

Since 9 of the reclined females in the inner ring and their stars are oriented counterclockwise (except for one, oriented clockwise and sharing the same tub with another female but from the opposite side of the tub), one could possibly interpret the reclined females and their stars in the inner ring as the days in the first decan of Pisces at the end of February. The only reclined female oriented clockwise could possibly depict 29th of February in a leap year.
Here the interpretation could be that the females are reclined to show that they represent past days from the previous month of February.

The stars of all 19 females in the outer ring are oriented clockwise. Here the interpretation could be that the females are standing upright to show that they represent forthcoming days of the remaining 2 decans of Pisces with respect to the New Year in Venice on the 1st of March.

The scheme looks like this:

- first decan of Pisces in February (9 females reclining counterclockwise); 
- a female reclining clockwise (29th of February in a leap year); and
- forthcoming second and third decans of Pisces in March (19 standing-up females with stars oriented clockwise).

Note that folio 70v seems to be the only astrological folio where females are oriented in opposite directions (clockwise or counterclockwise).

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