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RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - MHTamdgidi_(Behrooz) - 14-02-2026
(14-02-2026, 05:40 AM)Jorge_Stolfi wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(13-02-2026, 03:48 PM)MHTamdgidi_(Behrooz) wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.with all the twists and turns you are giving to make the back story plausible
Because the explanations that people have been giving for how an European language could be so well encrypted, how come the plants and cosmology are not recognizable, why the Zodiac diagrams have 30 labels each instead of 28/30/31 and why some are split into 15+15, and what are those nymphs doing in those tubs and showers between organs -- those are not "twists and turns", right?
"A small community of people who invented a secret language and script to communicate among themselves"
"A swindler who used an invented script and complicated and laborious method to produce random text, that to Europeans at the time would have looked utterly unlike language or code, with not a single reference to alchemy, in order to sell it to an Emperor who was obsessed with gold-making alchemy."
"A scholar who was afraid that the Inquisition, which he was sure would be created by the Church any time soon, would burn him at stake for his heretic thoughts, and therefore cleverly disguised them in a book with filled with bizarre attention-grabbing illustrations, in a baffling script that looks totally like an attempt by someone trying to hide heretic thoughts from the soon-to-come Inquisition".
And hundreds more...
All the best, --stolfi
I am puzzled by how you avoid answering questions directly when not suiting your needs and how logical double-standards serve your theory claims.
Zodiac diagrams are supposed to have 30 degrees, so I agree with ReneZ and many others that those marginalia in French for month names are added by others. In my view, the French month names are obvious errors, because each Zodiac month would correspond with two consecutive month days (which would explain the 28/30/31 regular calendar months spreading in them).
So, this also explains why two of the Zodiac months are rendered in 15/15 for focus, apparently, inviting reasonable explanations. The Voynich manuscript is pretty consistent and accurate in rendering Zodiac month degrees that have survived in the existing manuscript.
So, here we have evidence that you use marginalia errors (not the manuscript’s own material) to dismiss reasonable Zodiac 30 degrees (and those two month 15/15 splits for focus) to explain them away as mere decorations.
This is what the problem is globally with your statistical reductive reasoning. You dismiss anything in the VM that challenges your theory.
So, as far as narratives you listed go, the same thing is happening, you pick and choose some narratives (and “hundreds more”) as a way of not answering the question, and not even acknowledging those offered by those you are addressing.
You mention elsewhere, “Still, the violence of the reaction this time tells me that the evidence is good.”
Sorry, but this follows the same logic and is an unfair characterization.
The reason you are getting lots of reactions as such is because you invited it in the first place by your anagram publicity announcement. You built high expectations, so people are paying closer attention and more widely. It is not fair to characterize it as “violent”. In fact, it started off as very friendly, and still is, despite serious criticisms made.
One thing you are not appreciating, Jorge, is that attention taken for your claims is attention taken from other pursuits. You should be grateful for people answering your anagram initiated call, and expecting that they agree with everything is not reasonable. I for one hesitated sharing things I planned, because I was trying to allow for your announcement to materialize, which came in renewed “a few days” cycles. Actually, I did not even know it was about your Chinese theory, but something about the last page marginalia finding.
In any case, this is my last post on this topic you have shared re. Chinese theory, since it is now going in circles, and I am not any more convinced by how you are answering my questions, sorry. I wish you well in developing your theory and finding ways of convincing others.
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - rikforto - 14-02-2026
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - Jorge_Stolfi - 14-02-2026
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - tavie - 14-02-2026
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - Jorge_Stolfi - 14-02-2026
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - oshfdk - 14-02-2026
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - Jorge_Stolfi - 14-02-2026
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - oshfdk - 14-02-2026
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - kckluge - 16-02-2026
RE: The 'Chinese' Theory: For and Against - kckluge - 16-02-2026