Searcher > 13-02-2023, 10:28 PM
(09-02-2023, 10:05 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.TLDR: The k/t gallows sequence is strongly biased toward reduplication; especially long sequences of the same k/t gallows in a row.
What is interesting about it is that human-generated pseudo-random sequences have a "tendency to overalternate between outcomes" documented in psychology studies. See for example: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and the referenced literature.
Why do we see the opposite tendency in the VMS?
Quote:Consonance is the repetition of the same consonant sounds in a series of closely connected words in a sentence or a phrase. The repeated consonant sounds may occur in any part of the words - beginning, middle or end. Usually, you can identify consonance when you spot that the same sound is repeated in several consecutive words.Source: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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Alliteration normally means the repetition of the same sound at the beginning of closely connected words in sentences or phrases. In most cases, the repeated sound is a consonant but is sometimes a vowel sound.
Alliteration is when a series of words start with the same sound. It is most commonly found in poetry but you can also find examples in prose, songs, rap, and even in people's names! Alliteration creates a memorable effect on the text, making it more engaging and easier to remember.
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- It can help to focus the reader's attention on a particular section or phrase.
- It can create a rhythm when reading something aloud.
- It can make particular words or phrases memorable and catchy.
Assonance is the repetition of the same or similar vowel sounds in a series of words in a sentence or a phrase. Like consonance, the repeated sounds could appear at the beginning, in the middle or at the end of the words.
nablator > 16-02-2023, 01:26 AM
(13-02-2023, 10:28 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The text is full of long sequences of ch, sh, o, r, d, etc. They are not so notable in the text, but it doesn't mean that their strings less significant.I should check ch/sh sequences. ch/sh are similar to k/t in probability of getting an existing word by replacing one with the other, especially for common words, which gives them a random-like quality. I don't understand what you mean by o, r, d.
Searcher > 16-02-2023, 07:25 PM
(16-02-2023, 01:26 AM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(13-02-2023, 10:28 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The text is full of long sequences of ch, sh, o, r, d, etc. They are not so notable in the text, but it doesn't mean that their strings less significant.I should check ch/sh sequences. ch/sh are similar to k/t in probability of getting an existing word by replacing one with the other, especially for common words, which gives them a random-like quality. I don't understand what you mean by o, r, d.
nablator > 16-02-2023, 11:26 PM
(16-02-2023, 07:25 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Or you meant something another?Yes. I was looking at binary sequences of k and t gallows because they seem unrelated: they are not part of a (known) pattern. But then we would have a random distribution (as random as if shuffled if truly unrelated or as random as humans typically manage when they try to approximate randomness if they were written sequentially by hoaxers), and we don't.
MarcoP > 17-02-2023, 09:13 AM
pfeaster > 17-02-2023, 03:25 PM
(17-02-2023, 09:13 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The plot is only qualitatively comparable with Patrick's, since benched gallows cth ckh are excluded from his plot but included in mine.
MarcoP > 17-02-2023, 04:26 PM
(17-02-2023, 03:25 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(17-02-2023, 09:13 AM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The plot is only qualitatively comparable with Patrick's, since benched gallows cth ckh are excluded from his plot but included in mine.
For what it's worth, my corresponding plot in that paper likewise includes the benched gallows -- it uses the same selection criteria as the preceding Table 3, which I should probably have clarified.
(17-02-2023, 03:25 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I suppose one line of speculation might be that the "preferences" of [k] and [t] for different parts of the line increase the probability of continuous blocks of text occurring in which only one or the other of these glyphs appears -- but of course it's frustratingly difficult to tell what's the cause and what's the effect.
pfeaster > 17-02-2023, 06:42 PM
(17-02-2023, 04:26 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thank you, Patrick! I thought benched gallows were excluded because Y values are quite lower in your plot than in mine (~30% vs ~45% for k+t in the first bin; 'k' average ~22% vs ~30%); there must be some other reason for this difference, but I cannot guess what it might be.
(17-02-2023, 04:26 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This seems likely to apply to shorter sequences, while I am not sure that line preferences can have an impact on sequences that span several lines.
MarcoP > 18-02-2023, 09:40 AM